seminarian wrote: » What exactly is the Putin law? propaganda of nontraditional sexual relations to minors.. Russia has not banned being gay. You can still be gay there if you want. You won't be imprisioned or executed (like in many Muslim Countries)
seminarian wrote: » What exactly is the Putin law? propaganda of nontraditional sexual relations to minors.. Russia has not banned being gay. You can still be gay there if you want. You won't be imprisioned or executed (like in many Muslim Countries) working on London I saw the Soho parade this year, it was pretty explicit at times. Gay men practically naked in leather thong ass exposed. Thats fine, their life. I would NOT bring a child to watch a gay parade. Extreme fetishes on display, no thanks. So if you examine the Russian law carefully I see no problem with it.
seminarian wrote: » I would NOT bring a child to watch a gay parade. Extreme fetishes on display, no thanks.
Journa wrote: » In fairness you don't see men and women wearing BDSM erotica gear on public beaches, and children should definately not be exposed to that on the public street or otherwise. I don't think it's doing anyone any favours.
Journa wrote: » I've been to over 20 countries and hundreds of foreign cites, I've seen lots of different things done, but I don't see that as particularly relevant.
Sonics2k wrote: » [<SNIP> Carnival, Rio. What's your point buddy?
Jernal wrote: » [latex] ax^2 + bx + c = 0[/latex] [latex]x = \frac{-b \pm\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}[/latex]
seminarian wrote: » Where to "gay Rights" start and end? I am all for respecting the person be them gay or straight. However as a Straight person I won't not walk down the street practically naked with a whip spanking my half naked wife and call it "straight pride".. We call it a hen party! No, nor would I (the wife would kill me) but then again we haven't had to fight for our right to be recognized for what we are. Yet this is what some gay couples do during Gay pride and we are supposed to shut up and let it happen because its part of accepting gay. That said I am sure they are the minority. My Brother is gay and he knows my views on this particular issue. I think Children should be protected, if a boy thinks he is Gay there is no point added a label to him at a young age. Not every gay attraction at a young age results in a person being gay. Let Children be Children, Sexuality is part of the person, it does no define every action the person takes in life. We don't need gay rights.. We need respect for every person, If a man or woman wants to share their life with a person of the same sex then that is their adult decision. Lets respect it. However the whole Gay pride/Rights movement sometimes seems very in your face. We don't need to respect or accept practically naked people waving rainbow flags marching on the street... Straight people would not be allowed to march displaying hardcore fetish preferences.
seminarian wrote: » Where to "gay Rights" start and end? I am all for respecting the person be them gay or straight. However as a Straight person I won't not walk down the street practically naked with a whip spanking my half naked wife and call it "straight pride".. Yet this is what some gay couples do during Gay pride and we are supposed to shut up and let it happen because its part of accepting gay. That said I am sure they are the minority. My Brother is gay and he knows my views on this particular issue. I think Children should be protected, if a boy thinks he is Gay there is no point added a label to him at a young age. Not every gay attraction at a young age results in a person being gay. Let Children be Children, Sexuality is part of the person, it does no define every action the person takes in life. We don't need gay rights.. We need respect for every person, If a man or woman wants to share their life with a person of the same sex then that is their adult decision. Lets respect it. However the whole Gay pride/Rights movement sometimes seems very in your face. We don't need to respect or accept practically naked people waving rainbow flags marching on the street... Straight people would not be allowed to march displaying hardcore fetish preferences.
pauldla wrote: » Yet, as a Christian, you presumably have no issue with children being shown images, movies, and other public reenactments of a half-naked man being whipped and tortured to death?
tommy2bad wrote: » Well the thing is it's in your face for a reason, it's a cerebration of homosexual culture in all it diverse forms. It's a victory parade of sorts as well and an expression of defiance. It's a lot of things all rolled together and it's their not because gay people want to spread gayness but because straight people want to suppress them. You are right we don't need to respect bdsm being paraded down the street and we don't, we do however respect the achievement that changing a homophobic culture is and we need to support this. I think you will see less of this in your face type of display as homosexuality becomes mainstream and you'll see less concern about whether a teen is gay or not as well. It will be normal and ignored like sulking and watching too much TV. For now we just enjoy the party.
seminarian wrote: » What a parallel. :rolleyes:
seminarian wrote: » Where to "gay Rights" start and end? I am all for respecting the person be them gay or straight. However as a Straight person I won't not walk down the street practically naked with a whip spanking my half naked wife and call it "straight pride".. Yet this is what some gay couples do during Gay pride and we are supposed to shut up and let it happen because its part of accepting gay. That said I am sure they are the minority.
seminarian wrote: » Reality is in Ireland the majority of Gay people are men, its 70:30 I am told. STD's especially HIV are on the rise every year among gay men. Homosexual Culture is not about finding a partner and being faithful to that person, gay men have multiple partners before they commit (if they ever commit). The Gay movement does not know what it really wants and when it gets what it wants its not satisfied.
seminarian wrote: » My Brother is gay and he knows my views on this particular issue. I think Children should be protected, if a boy thinks he is Gay there is no point added a label to him at a young age. Not every gay attraction at a young age results in a person being gay. Let Children be Children, Sexuality is part of the person, it does no define every action the person takes in life. We don't need gay rights.. We need respect for every person, If a man or woman wants to share their life with a person of the same sex then that is their adult decision. Lets respect it. However the whole Gay pride/Rights movement sometimes seems very in your face. We don't need to respect or accept practically naked people waving rainbow flags marching on the street... Straight people would not be allowed to march displaying hardcore fetish preferences.
seminarian wrote: » Yeah right. Even my gay brother says its pathetic half of what happens in gay pride. As for Homosexual culture.. what exactly is that? Victory parade.. Don't gay movements want equality... I am no way homophobic, work with gay people all my life. They don't go round forcing their preferences or ideas.. All they want is to be equally accepted as a person. They have every right to be accepted in society as a person or as couples. But lets not kid ourselves thinking that homosexual culture as you put it has brought much positives to the lives of many gay people. Reality is in Ireland the majority of Gay people are men, its 70:30 I am told. STD's especially HIV are on the rise every year among gay men. Homosexual Culture is not about finding a partner and being faithful to that person, gay men have multiple partners before they commit (if they ever commit). The Gay movement does not know what it really wants and when it gets what it wants its not satisfied.
pauldla wrote: » Explain the difference. It's hard to imagine anything more hardcore than a crucifixion, yet we display it to our kids everywhere, be they Christian or not. Indeed, some go so far as to teach the kids that they have a personal involvement with the act etc etc. As a father, I'd much prefer my kids watch a gay pride parade to a reinactment of the Crucifixion.
Corkfeen wrote: » Teenagers do struggle with their sexuality but under Russia's law they cannot be told that there's nothing wrong with them. In fact, Russian society contrasts views them in the same category as paedophiles. Any advice is propaganda under Russian law and it promotes stigmatising a group of people. It's a frightening place to live by all accounts.
Do you really think so little of your brother? You've done a hell of a lot of generalising about what his existence entails. Plenty of monogamous gay couples around and also plenty of straight people that sleep around. It's really not about sexual orientation and up to the individual to live their lives how they wish. But you can't claim that one orientation is more predisposed to a set of traits when the exact same things could be said to be true of straight people
seminarian wrote: » Have you been to Russia? Because I have and my Gay brother and Partner have been there also on Holidays.
28064212 wrote: » The LGBT laws in Russia means that: no support groups can provide support to minors who are gay (which, given the rampant homophobia, is absolutely horrendous) a judge can rule two men holding hands in sight of minors is "propaganda" any public event which even acknowledges the existence of gay people must be over 18 you can be fired purely for being gay you can be refused service purely for being gay
seminarian wrote: » I respect full well my brother, is many respects he is a better man than I am. He is fully out, lived all his live with the same partner (who is very much part of our family). And he himself will say its better for a child or a young teenager NOT to come out. Its important to have people who understand and help them, but not to start applying labels that only handicap a child or adolescent.
seminarian wrote: » Have you been to Russia? Because I have and my Gay brother and Partner have been there also on Holidays. I respect full well my brother, is many respects he is a better man than I am. He is fully out, lived all his live with the same partner (who is very much part of our family). And he himself will say its better for a child or a young teenager NOT to come out. Its important to have people who understand and help them, but not to start applying labels that only handicap a child or adolescent.
tommy2bad wrote: » Well if I had to chose La Cage aux Folles or the Passion of the Christ ! This is something that's culturally driven not so much by anti gay feelings as anti sex feelings. We are all too comfortable with violence and all too uncomfortable with sex.
Doc Farrell wrote: » Seminarian please change your name. Unless you are going to a Scientology seminary, in which case, carry on. Seriously though, if you want to pm me which seminary who are going to and a contact email address I will get your director to explain to you why you need to close your account. ( short answer, you're supposed to be studying and your posts lack charity).
