ezra_pound wrote: » No statutorily they can stop any cars. That is common law powers discussed.
darkpagandeath wrote: » so do i but there are way cheaper more effective ways than just setting up checkpoints. Suspect fraud cut of welfare let them come in and prove there not defrauding the state.
ezra_pound wrote: » What rights? Whent the 2014 act is promulgated what rights will stop the gardai busting welfare fraud at the road block?
darkpagandeath wrote: » by that logic they can make t.v illegal by passing a law. They in government represent the people they do not control the people
dxhound2005 wrote: » And every citizen is subject to the law in place for the time being.
darkpagandeath wrote: » Untill what 1 day later when there are mass riots and the government is overthrown
ezra_pound wrote: » Hello anybody home? If the oireachtas made TV or coffee or playboy or divorce or condoms illegal then they'd be illegal. Wtf is wrong with you?
darkpagandeath wrote: » Pretty sure they cant we have something called human rights in Europe
ezra_pound wrote: » Playboy was illegal here until mid nineties. Condoms likewise. Divorce likewise. Coffee and TV were never illegal. Is coffee a human right?
darkpagandeath wrote: » By that logic is anything ? you really want to live in some kind of post Russia communist collapse were the government tells you what to do ? And you could still have got porn off the internet
darkpagandeath wrote: » By that logic is anything ? you really want to live in some kind of post Russia communist collapse were the government tells you what to do ? And you could still have got porn off the internet oh and we don't live in the 90s anymore thank fook
dxhound2005 wrote: » But if this little story hadn't appeared in the papers you wouldn't even have known about Multi Agency Vehicle Checkpoints. Because you probably never saw one even though they have been around for many years. And are a common crime fighting device used in many democratic countries without causing a collapse into dictatorship.
ezra_pound wrote: » Anyway I for one think that it's great. Hate social welfare cheats.
ezra_pound wrote: » I think your obviously pubescent outlook kind of taunts your understanding of this whole issue. You obviously don't really know about how this state is governed or the separation of powers in the Irish system.
ezra_pound wrote: » When playboy was banned it was easier to get a copy of it than internet porn! What year did you first go online? I had a modem since about 1990 and there was no internet service at the time. It was all bbs#s. Are you old enough to have facial hair yet? Seriously?
ezra_pound wrote: » I think your obviously pubescent outlook kind of taunts your understanding of this whole issue. You obviously don't really know about how this state is governed or the separation of powers in the Irish system. Do they still teach civics for the junior cert?
Technoprisoner wrote: » well its better than making up laws that do not exist and then pretend to yourself that this is all above board.
ezra_pound wrote: » There will be a sw act early in new year. There ALWAYS is. You can be sure that this will be included in it.
darkpagandeath wrote: » Attack the post not the poster please and I'm probably older than you not that has any relevance to this . The internet came to Ireland in what 96 you said mid 90s playboy was still band.
ezra_pound wrote: » Sorry but you walked into it... Playboy condoms etc. Lol
Cody Pomeray wrote: » why would it be? sharing information between the Gardaí the Department of Social Protection, and Garda powers to stop cars without specific suspicion is already law.
ezra_pound wrote: » Specific statutory powers and procedure for garda questioning re welfare fraud.
ezra_pound wrote: » But it will be above board when the law is passed. I've obviously been around a bit longer than you and seen the introduction of random breath testing legislation for instance. That's typically what happens. There will be a sw act early in new year. There ALWAYS is. You can be sure that this will be included in it.
Technoprisoner wrote: » what law? it has not been introduced so you can not quote a non existent law. i have been around long enough to see the introduction of random breath testing. and as i said earlier there is law in place to allow this. but currently there is no law that allows the garda or anyone else to randomly stop you and ask you to give up private information such as your pps number or if you are employed. and anything i have read about this has not mentioned new laws to be introduced that would give them the power to do this...so everything you have said is so far make believe.... they may well introduce powers to do this but currently there is no law there to provide such powers. This is exactly why i voted to keep the seanad. so any powers the government try introduce can be debated and discussed before the law is sent back to the dail for any amendments. If they do try and introduce such laws i would imagine there would be a constitutional challenge in the courts
ezra_pound wrote: » THE FUTURE NOT NOW BUT SHORTLY IN THE FUTURE.
