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ESB HQ to be demolished

MadsL

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/esb-to-replace-offices-with-loose-version-of-georgian-streetscape-1.1563200

So finally the ESB is to remove one of Ireland's most heinous architectural crimes.

The options:

Save the existing building (somehow)
Go with a new twist on the Georgian Terrace
Reinstate the original facades from photographs and drawings.

Adding poll now.

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2 stroke

Where's the "Blast it with piss" option?

Nodin

MadsL wrote: »

Huh?

Do I really need to roll out the sarcasm tags?

MadsL

Augmerson wrote: »

I'm willing to let it go as I can see you're getting a bit upset about it, I could tell by the rolleyes inclusion.

I'm so happy we have your blessing. (*avoids rolleyes, but really appropriate here*)

MadsL

Nodin wrote: »

Do I really need to roll out the sarcasm tags?

Sorry. My goat has disappeared.

MadsL

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Get rid of Cork? Where do I sign up?

No longer a Dublin thread now is it?

Nodin

MadsL wrote: »

Sorry. My goat has disappeared.

I'd suggest you consider that story while we excavate your back garden.

The Backwards Man

MadsL wrote: »

No longer a Dublin thread now is it?

No odds to me. I'm in Donegal, they are all 'out foreign' as far as I'm concerned.:pac:

BabyGorilla

MadsL wrote: »

Huh?

Dublin's Georgian Granite paving was part of the reason Dublin's Georgian quarter lost a bid to become a UNESCO World Heritage Site a few years back. UNESCO felt DCC were not doing enough to preserve the paving.

Sure 200 year old paving, why save that?

Montrond says to tell you it is verily one step short of Avenue de la Motte-Piquet.

ahawhawhaw

crockholm

Keep the facade in line with its neighbouring buildings,in a true Georgian style-complete with parapets,axed flat cambered arches and semi-elipitcal arches over doorways.Anything less is a cop out to some lazy half assed asshole architect who couldn't be bothered researching Georgian architecture and instead uses bland linear designs as seen in the modified version.

Nodin-do not bad mouth the granite.

Thoie

MadsL wrote: »

Mother of God - wtf is that?

That's the old ESB shop in Casement Square in Cobh - the first square that cruise ship visitors come across when they disembark. The building with the arches is the old courthouse, which has been the public library for 30+ years ,complete with mezzanine levels and other gorgeous features. The rest of the buildings in the square are mostly businesses/pubs on the ground floor, but the majority still have original features upstairs.

Directly behind the viewpoint linked is the Lusitania memorial - the bodies from the Lusitania were stored in the library/courthouse when first recovered before being brought for burial.

Based on the fact that it's even more of a tourist destination than Fitzwilliam Street, and is smaller and easier to replace, I think it should get first dibs

Dr Turk Turkelton

MadsL wrote: »

Huh?

Dublin's Georgian Granite paving was part of the reason Dublin's Georgian quarter lost a bid to become a UNESCO World Heritage Site a few years back. UNESCO felt DCC were not doing enough to preserve the paving.

Sure 200 year old paving, why save that?

Sure wasn't the budget easy enough on us this week so there must be a few quid in the coffers again.
If the paving is that old we must be able to afford a new bit now?

MadsL

Thoie wrote: »

That's the old ESB shop in Casement Square in Cobh - the first square that cruise ship visitors come across when they disembark. The building with the arches is the old courthouse, which has been the public library for 30+ years ,complete with mezzanine levels and other gorgeous features. The rest of the buildings in the square are mostly businesses/pubs on the ground floor, but the majority still have original features upstairs.

Directly behind the viewpoint linked is the Lusitania memorial - the bodies from the Lusitania were stored in the library/courthouse when first recovered before being brought for burial.

Based on the fact that it's even more of a tourist destination than Fitzwilliam Street, and is smaller and easier to replace, I think it should get first dibs

I'm astonished that a people's liberation front have not tackled that as a public service. That is quite THE most horrific piece of cultural vandalism I every saw. It looks like a bunker from WW2.

MadsL

Cuchulainn1. wrote: »

Sure wasn't the budget easy enough on us this week so there must be a few quid in the coffers again.
If the paving is that old we must be able to afford a new bit now?

Especially if someone who works for DCC needs a new bit of garden path.

Nodin

crockholm wrote: »

.................

Nodin-do not bad mouth the granite.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=87067525&postcount=33

crockholm

Nodin wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=87067525&postcount=33

Yes. You do-you're cagey enough at the best of times.:)

My name is URL

I don't see the point in rebuilding it to mimic the old building fronts. It'd be a different story if they were actually preserving the original ones, but why rebuild simply for the sake of nostalgia and at the expense of versatility.

Give the old design a new twist would be my choice, but the example put forward by Grafton looks awful.

MadsL

My name is URL wrote: »

I don't see the point in rebuilding it to mimic the old building fronts. It'd be a different story if they were actually preserving the original ones, but why rebuild simply for the sake of nostalgia and at the expense of versatility.

Give the old design a new twist would be my choice, but the example put forward by Grafton looks awful.

Because it would restore the uninterrupted vista down Fitzwilliam St as it was first imagined. It would not improve the site but it would improve the context of the remaining Georgian buildings.

April O Neill

I don't think the Georgian facade should be rebuilt, the architecture should reflect the era in which it is built.

MadsL

April O Neill wrote: »

I don't think the Georgian facade should be rebuilt, the architecture should reflect the era in which it is built.

Should it not also have regard for the era when the majority of the buildings around it were built?

ottostreet

Dublin forum tbh.

lkionm

MadsL wrote: »

I hope not.

We need a sarcasm button

MadsL

lkionm wrote: »

We need a sarcasm button

...but...but...you said you were being serious.

MadsL

ottostreet wrote: »

Dublin forum tbh.

Not a mod tbh.

ottostreet

MadsL wrote: »

Not a mod tbh.

No I'm not, but that doesn't stop me having an opinion.

lkionm

MadsL wrote: »

...but...but...you said you were being serious.

I am always serious. Especially on after hours. No messing here officer

lkionm

ottostreet wrote: »

No I'm not, but that doesn't stop me having an opinion.

Do you live in Dublin?

MadsL

ottostreet wrote: »

No I'm not, but that doesn't stop me having an opinion.

Here's a thread where your opinion would be on topic. Knock yourself out....

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057063669

MadsL

lkionm wrote: »

I am always serious. Especially on after hours. No messing here officer

*narrows eyes*

JupiterKid

Delighted at this news.

That monstrosity of a 1960s groundscraper was
a serious blot on Dublin's Georgian Mile. Rebuild
with the original Georgian facades - but rebuild
properly with original internal layouts and
plasterwork as much as possible - not just facades with a modern
office block inside.

ottostreet

lkionm wrote: »

Do you live in Dublin?

Nope, not since 2010!