bumper234 wrote: » So accusations without evidence are ok then? As I asked earlier would it be ok to accuse all Romanians of being beggars or all Nigerians of being work shy spongers?
bumper234 wrote: » Hmmmmmm well done. Both links say traveler's collect dole money but nowhere does it say they abuse the system. Any chance of evidence of abuse seeing as that's what you accused them of?
jameshayes wrote: » The ability of people to see the bigger picture is a poor sign for the nation. if you have a leak in your bath, you don't turn the tap up higher, you try find the source of the leak - Ireland, the bath in this example, are leaking money, the water in this example. One of the leaks is SW fraud. This is now to be addressed to the extent which JB has set a target of OVER 700 million - this money saved is then available to be either re-used or absorbed into debt. I'm not a fan of JB, or labour for that mater - but this effort makes sense, and a lot of it!
mfceiling wrote: » I can show you one guy who has never worked a day in his life, drops and collects his child from school every day but changes his car for a new model every year. Come the good weather he'll be out front in the deck chair, with the country music blaring, with his cans of beer beside him. How can that be done? Maybe he won the lotto?
bumper234 wrote: » I can show you a nigerian lad who has 2 cars and never works does that mean all Nigerians are cheating the system?
valknut wrote: » I'll link this article for a second time, http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/irish-news/travellers-suffer-84-unemployment-28821652.html. I have a feeling trying to make you understand the facts I posted would be similar to trying to teach a blind person to drive. Calling travellers on there blatant welfare abuse is not the same as saying all black people are lazy. Black people are diverse with many different cultural traits found in many nations. Travellers are a subset of Irish people who are not a different race, just a community that contributes nothing but complains about discrimination at every opportunity despite the best efforts of the state and do gooders to help them.
Fred Swanson wrote: » That does not give the gardaí the power to demand a PPSN.
Gatling wrote: » 60% unemployment rate 20 % listed as students I'm sure your will find plenty a long with any nationality that claims
bumper234 wrote: » I agree I think they should attempt to get everyone who is working and claiming or single mothers who claim to live alone when they don't.
Gatling wrote: » There after everyone suspected and reported
bumper234 wrote: » If your neighbours are working and claiming welfare do you think they should get away with it?
Gatling wrote: » You can be questioned under caution by both though
RustyNut wrote: » and can refuse to answer all questions
FGR wrote: » A lot of people are misinformed about how Gardaí and Social Welfare can share information. There are laws that allow them to do this. Section 265 of the Social Welfare Consolidation Act amongst others. So my advice? Don't listen to the freemen here as you'll only end up in bother.
A specified body holding information may share that information with another specified body who has a transaction with a natural person relating to a relevant purpose, where the specified body seeking the information provides the personal public service number of the person who is the subject of the transaction and satisfies the data controller of the specified body holding the information that the information requested is relevant to the transaction for that purpose between the person and the specified body seeking the information.
Fred Swanson wrote: » There is no obligation to answer.
mfceiling wrote: » 2 brand new ones that are changed every year? How can someone who has never worked a day in their life afford the €27,000 car, that parks beside my van which is worth about €800 max? (i work every day and so does the wife).
bumper234 wrote: » And have you reported your suspicions to anyone?
