hatrickpatrick wrote: » The right claims to be in favour of small government, freedom, and a free market in which there's less of a safety net. The trouble is, they refuse to apply these principles to bankers and bondholders who make bad investments, to corporations, to gay people who want to get married, to people who oppose pervasive government spying and internment in the name of "security", etc etc etc. Some elements of the right are ok, but unfortunately for a movement whose mantra is "small government", there are far too many people involved who believe that the government has a right to dictate the personal morality of consenting adults and decide how much privacy we "deserve". F*ck that.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » The right claims to be in favour of small government, freedom, and a free market in which there's less of a safety net. The trouble is, they refuse to apply these principles to bankers and bondholders who make bad investments, to corporations, to gay people who want to get married, to people who oppose pervasive government spying and internment in the name of "security", etc etc etc. Some elements of the right are ok, but unfortunately for a movement whose mantra is "small government", there are far too many people involved who believe that the government has a right to dictate the personal morality of consenting adults and decide how much privacy we "deserve". F*ck that. EDIT: I suppose my big problem with the right is that they assume it's ok to state their beliefs as "small government" when they only mean that in terms of money. Personal freedom is far more important to me and the right wants to strip a lot of that away. You can have all the money you want out of my wallet, but don't dare tell me I can't live with my girlfriend before getting married or that you have the right to rifle through my private mails on Facebook just in case I might be a terrorist.
dotsman wrote: » As at today, I would say that Ireland is centre left in most things (especially economics),
Corvus Maximus wrote: » You have got to be having a laugh.
Pai Mei wrote: » Left wing liberal. (pro-choice, for gay marriage etc.) Right wing conservative. (pro-life, anti gay marriage etc.) And all the sh1te that goes with them.
dotsman wrote: » Nope. If you disagree, see my post above and counter. I welcome intelligent debate.
dotsman wrote: » If you disagree, see my post above and counter. I welcome intelligent debate.
dubaicentral wrote: » I would say you are pretty bang on the button about being centre left according to your graph apart from trade unions and entrepreneurship. Entrepreneurship is actively encouraged in the current climate and the more people that take the plunge and go for it the better for the economy, even if some or most fail. As for unions. In my opinions unions are for dinosaurs. People are treated well and paid well and get great benefits(not in all jobs but employment law basically eliminates unions imo). The role of the union is gone, they pop their heads up once in awhile to justify their existence and the subscriptions they charge. Yes there is a large union presence in this country but there is hundreds of thousands of workers in multinational companies who simply do not need or have union membership because they are treated well from the get go. Employment law in Ireland if adhered to has eliminated the need for unions. Also my entrepreneur and union opinion not being centre left is only based on the above graph.
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Ten of Swords wrote: » Left wing: Political focus is on the people Right wing: Political focus is on the state This sums it up pretty well,http://www.domovod.info/zzimages/PolSpectrum5.png
biko wrote: » Left - state rule Right - individual rule as I see it but there's really a difference on case basis rather. .
banquo wrote: » This is beyond idiotic.
losthorizon wrote: » I'm just left of centre but Ireland is possibly the most right wing country in Europe. It takes a special nation to be more right wing than the USA but we manage it.
Agricola wrote: » Left wing - Kind hearted, compassionate, thinking people who believe in helping othersA liberal is someone who will gladly give you the shirt off of someone elses back..
gavmcg92 wrote: » If only we were centre left on our social policies.
NoCrackHaving wrote: » In what regards? With the exception of abortion and maybe some drug laws we're pretty much in the centre verging on centre left.
gavmcg92 wrote: » Same sex marriage, drug policy and abortion are the three main areas. I would also like to see, on the other hand, a far great separation of church and state. Again it's all relative to your own views on where the dividing line lies between left and right.
Dracula88 wrote: » I am a staunch believer in center right wing conservative politics. I am anti populist who seeks to in still anti Left wing policies
