Sierra Oscar wrote: » They seem pretty adamant on driving it true - sure dead people don't have votes is their mentality. They are forgetting that someone has to pay for a funeral. People pay PRSI all their life, and now they can't even pass away in peace in the knowledge that they won't be indebting the family they leave behind if they are struggling financially. It is actually a disgusting, horrible and spiteful cut.
ThisRegard wrote: » Lots can, lots can't. As posted above, 2 million medical cards out there practically means we have free health care in Ireland.
jank wrote: » That is what life insurance is for? Most people will have a few hundred bob put away for their funeral. If not they are irresponsible so not sure why the tax payer should pick up the tab.
ash23 wrote: » You do know young people die too? And children?
jank wrote: » And? Do you have a point?
tayto lover wrote: » Thanks for that. The point is they should have the peace of mind due to them for their sacrifices over many years.
ash23 wrote: » I thought the obvious is obvious. Young people won't have planned for their funeral and might not have life insurance other than to cover their mortgage. Younger people tend to invest in pensions or pay health insurance with their extra funds, not plan their funerals. Most people wouldn't have money put aside for their childs funeral either. So saying people should is not really acknowledging that it's not just old people who die. Deaths can be sudden and unexpected and adding to the woes of people in that scenario is somewhat heartless.
Sir Oxman wrote: » Anyone caused financial hardship due to funeral expenses can still apply for a grant, AFAIK.
ash23 wrote: » Yes but there's no guarantee. Plus they've to go to the cwo who is usually available once a week in the local health centre, sit and wait god knows how long and then go in and explain their predicament. Hardly what a newly bereaved parent or spouse needs after a sudden loss.
Sir Oxman wrote: » So just keep it as is and dole it out to everyone?
efb wrote: » Jesus ya think AH is bad you should read the comments section on The Journal.
DrumSteve wrote: » Id argue that the comments section of that site is more accurate with regards public opinion than boards.
EoghanIRL wrote: » What about the other 2 and a half million people . Less than 50 percent have med cards , hardly free healthcare. Medical card should be abolished , either everyone gets one or no one . If you have a medical car you get a free bus ticket , free exams etc . What is wrong with this country .
allibastor wrote: » What did I learn from Bugdet 2014? If you are young, piss off and leave the country and come back when you have 5 or more years work experience for a holiday every now and then (but don't forget to bring plenty of cash!). Enjoy catching up with friends and family secure in the knowledge that soon you'll be leaving again to the much better life you've built yourself
awec wrote: » Who said they all were? Not all pensioners are losing the card. Here is the fact here: 1. Well off pensioners receiving large pensions on incomes which are higher than most working people and outgoings that are lower than most working people will not receive medical cards. 2. Pensioners who are not well off will continue to receive free healthcare. 3. Hyperbole ensues. "Won't somebody think of the pensioners on 900 quid a week?!" Had the cards been kept: 1. All pensioners get the medical card 2. Tax increase to pay for it 3. "It's not fair that I have to pay more taxes! Tax and make cuts to the well off!"
Kaiser2000 wrote: » FYP there. If you're young and unemployed, you better hope mammy and daddy can afford to keep you as otherwise going abroad is probably your only option. If you're a single father who actually takes an interest in his children and provides financially for them (directly and through the provision of a home where they can stay with you too) you're now going to be just under €140 a month less well off due to the changes in the tax credits If you're old and actually NEED social support well then you may as well just hurry up and die alright If you have a bank account expect more charges as your bank passes on the new levy to you (probably with a few quid added on for themselves) If you drive you won't be screwed any worse but if you have an older car then you are still paying way over the odds for it in tax. Also don't forget that most of the price at the pump is tax When you do die, you better have provided for your funeral or hope your family have the cash to give you a decent burial
mozattack wrote: » Tax, hikes, cut backs but no change to the braindead civil service wages really... Turkeys voting for Xmas I suppose.
OldRio wrote: » whilst those with the real money and power go about their business unnoticed and untouched.
angelclar wrote: » Any youth under 25 are better off out of this county that staying here . They cannot stay on €100 per week
Banjo String wrote: » Why don't this govt means test when implementing Both cuts and gives. Plenty of families with under fives could well afford the free gp visits for example.
seamus wrote: » There are potential legal issues if the state doesn't treat all children equally. So denying free GP care to one child on the basis of parental wealth would be legally unequal and subject to challenge. It's the same reason why child benefit is universal and hasn't changed.
