wolfpawnat wrote: » I agree there are wealthy OAP's that can afford it, however they are taking cards off needy people under 70, so they will do it over 70!
Playboy wrote: » No probably not but plenty of families out there think they can just pop out a few sprogs and worry about the cost of them later. PArents have a responsibility to pay for their children, taxpayers dont.
Mr Shatter said we will see new student gardaí entering the Garda College in Templemore in 2014 - the first since the previous government stopped recruitment in 2009."
anthonyross wrote: » im 24 now and im getting 188 but i will be 25 in january next year are my getting cut?and if so is it from next week on thanks
adocholiday wrote: » Any mention of PRSI?
Playboy wrote: » If you read my post i did say "Fair enough if you had a decent income and then got hit by the recession". So could you please point out what is ignorant about my post. Seems like lots of people work hard and save and wait till they can afford children while others just seem to breed away and then complain they dont get subsidised childcare or health for their kids. it's ridiculous tbh.
Why are you having kids then if you cant afford it? Do people just expect the state (every other taxpayer) to pick up the slack?
Sierra Oscar wrote: » Agreed, medical cards are being taken from people over the age of 70 who genuinely need them in order to give medical cards to children under the age of five who's parents could be well off. Nearly 50% of children under five have a medical card as it is. Means testing for the elderly, but no means test for the parents of those with children under five years of age.
Nemeses wrote: » This certainly good news. About time we have more people in the force!
ibarelycare wrote: » Are people going to be out protesting now? It's really going to disrupt my journey home from work
wolfpawnat wrote: » Since you have it already no. And all welfare changes are usually effective as of the 1st of Jan.
Brutal Deluxe wrote: » Well, I doubt she had kids for the sole purpose of f**king over the taxpayers.
ford_owner wrote: » your a chump , the medical card threshold has simply been lowered for the wealthy seventy year old plus group
ibarelycare wrote: » They're only being abolished for OAPs who earn under €500 a week. I sincerely hope the government doesn't back down to the grey army this time. They need to take a hit just like the rest of us.
NiallSparky wrote: » In fairness, it was said that the kid was 12 weeks old. Not that I'm necessarily in agreement with the post.
My name is URL wrote: » Don't think they really had a choice on that score, considering how many Gardai are heading towards retirement!
Brutal Deluxe wrote: » So what the Hell are you going on at her over it for? You have no idea of her situation at all.
DrumSteve wrote: » I think it's great. Let's never forget what those ***** did to this country.
wolfpawnat wrote: » How is my daughters age relevant, condom failed. It happens. She wasn't planned and daddy will be back in the workforce in 2014, with a good, taxable career!
Playboy wrote: » No probably not but plenty of families out there think they can just pop out a few sprogs and worry about the cost of them later. PArents have a responsibility to pay for their children, taxpayers dont. If you read my post i did say "Fair enough if you had a decent income and then got hit by the recession". So could you please point out what is ignorant about my post. Seems like lots of people work hard and save and wait till they can afford children while others just seem to breed away and then complain they dont get subsidised childcare or health for their kids. it's ridiculous tbh.
Banjo String wrote: » This bit.
Playboy wrote: » ? I'm not going on at her.. i made one comment then discussed that with others. I did add a disclaimer to my comment. However if you think that a country with no national health service providing nearly half the population with free healthcare is ok then fire away... i can see how we got in the mess we are in. People pay an enormous amount every month from their salaries to pay for the nhs, Ireland doesnt fund the health service in the same way so people need to get real and stop expecting medical cards for one and all.
Playboy wrote: » Why are you having kids then if you cant afford it? Do people just expect the state (every other taxpayer) to pick up the slack? Fair enough if you had a decent income and then got hit by the recession but too many people just decide to have a family without thinking through the financial consequences, then all of a sudden its everyones else's problem. The NHS costs a fortune in the UK and unless the Irish are prepared to cough up a similar amount every month to pay for a similar system then people will just have to make do unfortunately.
Riskymove wrote: » its inevitable across the board I saw a report that the average age in some Departments was approaching 50 and there were no employees under 30
Dravokivich wrote: » What's ridiculous is you made unsubstantiated claims that she did that very thing. FFS
Playboy wrote: » no I didnt.. have people got problems with ther english language? I said others not her specifically. I added a dsiclaimer to my comment that "Fair enough if you had a decent income and then got hit by the recession". Can we not not talk generally about an issue?
Brutal Deluxe wrote: » But you singled her out? You decided that she must not be able to afford them so she shouldn't have them (Fair enough) but you assumed she knew she'd be in the deep end of no money land and still wanted to have kids See:
Brutal Deluxe wrote: » But the issue you assumed she did then decided to add your disclaimer. That's pretty much screaming at someone and then adding in "ah but if you have an excuse it's okay".
goose06 wrote: » It's fairly shocking to see that most of the Dail has been cleared out already
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