Is there a differance between the Real IRA and the Continuity IRA?

tdv123 wrote: »

What question?

If the ira protected people ffrom sectarianism, justify kingsmill?

tdv123 wrote: »

I'm not trying to justify any killings, but I did explain why she was killed.

Honestly I can understand fleggers much more easily than I can Free State militant anti-Republicans. I put their rabidness down to hatred of PSF's social democratic politics or a guilty conscience over the north- its probably a mixture of the two.

joe swanson wrote: »

If the ira protected people ffrom sectarianism, justify kingsmill?

He probably wasnt born than- asking him to justify it is like me asking you to justify the "famine".

SoulandForm wrote: »

He probably wasnt born than- asking him to justify it is like me asking you to justify the "famine".

Fail

SoulandForm wrote: »

No we dont- I trust Brendan Hughes' account.

Nobody else does.
She was murdered, body hidden, her good name destroyed & still they lie

Just to be clear I abhorred all violence. A passive resistance or civil rights approach would have been much more preferable. But that was just not possible, those routes were blocked of at that moment in time, unfortunately violence was inevitable. And who ever gets involved on either side knows the risk their taking Ruc, Brit,Loyalist or Provo - all of them know death is very possible & none of them were forced to enter the conflict.

joe swanson wrote: »

Fail

Hardly- you support British Imperialism therefore you justify anything and everything they have done. That is your logic.

tdv123 wrote: »

She was an informer, she was giving information to the tyrant. And don't call it a lie, her family were Republicans it would make no sense to kill her if she was a civilian which she clearly was not.

You still persist with falsehoods, shame on you

Howard Juneau wrote: »

Nobody else does.
She was murdered, body hidden, her good name destroyed & still they lie

Do you also believe the story that she was killed for going to the aid of a British soldier that was in the media at the time and afterwards proven a total lie?

joe swanson wrote: »

If the ira protected people ffrom sectarianism, justify kingsmill?

I already addressed that on page24 first post.

SoulandForm wrote: »

Hardly- you support British Imperialism therefore you justify anything and everything they have done. That is your logic.

Where have i said that?

SoulandForm wrote: »

Do you also believe the story that she was killed for going to the aid of a British soldier that was in the media at the time and afterwards proven a total lie?

No, sure didn't she run off with a British soldier & leave her kids behind.

joe swanson wrote: »

Where have i said that?

Your whole story of the Provos just being psychopaths murdering for kicks says it.

Howard Juneau wrote: »

Nobody else does.

I do. You can call Brendan Hughes what ever you want one thing the man wasn't was a liar. Probably the most honest from the conflict I've heard speak.

tdv123 wrote: »

I do. You can call Brendan Hughes what ever you want one thing the man wasn't was a liar. Probably the most honest from the conflict I've heard speak.

He was a liar, McConville was tortured & murdered on the whim of evildoers

SoulandForm wrote: »

Your whole story of the Provos just being psychopaths murdering for kicks says it.

I consider myself a constitutional republican. Just because someone dcoes not agree with cold blooed murder of innocents does not make one pro british. Anyway im out. Bed

Howard Juneau wrote: »

He was a liar, McConville was tortured & murdered on the whim of evildoers

But when he says Gerry Adams was involved do you think he was telling the truth?

Why would lie about this in particular and not other things which showed him in a bad light?

Howard Juneau wrote: »

You still persist with falsehoods, shame on you

Nothing false about it mate, that's what all the evidence would suggest, your the one coming out with the more radical alternative to the most probable answer which is she was just your average informer. Your just blinded by your hatred for Republicanism.

Howard Juneau wrote: »

He was a liar, McConville was tortured & murdered on the whim of evildoers

Again with the drama. She wasn't tortured she was shot once in the head, end of.

SoulandForm wrote: »

But when he says Gerry Adams was involved do you think he was telling the truth?

Why would lie about this in particular and not other things which showed him in a bad light?

The story was that Adams gave the order to kill her. I don't believe it.
Hughes was an evil psychopath who was looking to go out with a bang.
Pity he didn't make these claims to the press while he was still alive & could be questioned on his Bs

Howard Juneau wrote: »

No, sure didn't she run off with a British soldier & leave her kids behind.

No, that's just a lie.

tdv123 wrote: »

Again with the drama. She wasn't tortured she was shot once in the head, end of.

She was tortured, that is undeniable.

tdv123 wrote: »

No, that's just a lie.

One of many that was spread by her killers

Howard Juneau wrote: »

The story was that Adams gave the order to kill her. I don't believe it.
Hughes was an evil psychopath who was looking to go out with a bang.
Pity he didn't make these claims to the press while he was still alive & could be questioned on his Bs

He wasnt though, very easy to judge from your safety in the south.

Howard Juneau wrote: »

The story was that Adams gave the order to kill her. I don't believe it.
Hughes was an evil psychopath who was looking to go out with a bang.
Pity he didn't make these claims to the press while he was still alive & could be questioned on his Bs

Attacking a dead persons personality traits, nice. He was not an evil psychopath that's just your radical imagination again. And he gave plenty of interviews for media after the 1994 ceasefire he where explains quit a number of things about unclear events.

tdv123 wrote: »

Nothing false about it mate, that's what all the evidence would suggest, your the one coming out with the more radical alternative to the most probable answer which is she was just your average informer. Your just blinded by your hatred for Republicanism.

It's a complete & utter lie.
Not even any room for doubt. She was taken out, tortured & executed.
All the rubbish you spout just shows how blind you are to the truth

Nite all, will let you defame a murdered woman to your hearts content

Howard Juneau wrote: »

One of many that was spread by her killers

So your admitting you told a lie & that you were one of her killers. Maybe you should hand yourself into a police station.

Howard Juneau wrote: »

Nite all, will let you defame a murdered woman to your hearts content

How is it defaming? Saying someone was actively on the pro-Union is not defaming them necessarily.

Or do you think it is? Were all BA soldiers and RUC men evil in your eyes?