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NTMK wrote: »

just had a game of it there and my fps never dropped below 50 and averaging 60-70 with everything on high/ultra and FOV set to 120 on a 780 so it might be a case of older nvidia cards not being optimised yet

It looks and sounds soooo much better than BF3 though i have to say and feels smoother animation wise to me

Buddy with Titan has a good sailing too. Looks like they focused on 7/7ish gen Cards. 680 is not a weak card and should run BF4 easily. It has enough horse power, but I hope Nvidia not going to bury it to die like this and force people in to gen 7...

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Buddy with Titan has a good sailing too. Looks like they focused on 7/7ish gen Cards. 680 is not a weak card and should run BF4 easily. It has enough horse power, but I hope Nvidia not going to bury it to die like this and force people in to gen 7...

they wont but their driver guys only got bf4 code very recently and probably work back it also helps that the 780 and titan got a ton of horse power i havent heard how the 770 is coping yet

AMD's new flagship NDA is up the same day the same day the beta ends so they're definitely looking to make their numbers look better before launch hopefully that will push 7 series prices down and make Nvidia use Maxwell on the 8 series

NTMK wrote: »

they wont but their driver guys only got bf4 code very recently and probably work back it also helps that the 780 and titan got a ton of horse power i havent heard how the 770 is coping yet

AMD's new flagship NDA is up the same day the same day the beta ends so they're definitely looking to make their numbers look better before launch hopefully that will push 7 series prices down and make Nvidia use Maxwell on the 8 series

Dont know about price drops... Nvidia kept price up on 680 so damn long. AMD already had faster cards then 680 and for almost half the price. Nvidia have brain lag quite often.
It makes me sort of happy that Next gen consoles are AMD based, so almost any cross platform game will be better optimised on AMD. Green camp really needs to get their finger out...

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Dont know about price drops... Nvidia kept price up on 680 so damn long. AMD already had faster cards then 680 and for almost half the price. Nvidia have brain lag quite often.
It makes me sort of happy that Next gen consoles are AMD based, so almost any cross platform game will be better optimised on AMD. Green camp really needs to get their finger out...

they will. They lost 3 console bids to AMD and their mobile processors are not going to dominate.

Now is do or die for Nvidia as AMD are guaranteed big big income for 5+ years and AMD can and will really push nvidia hard on the consumer side

NTMK wrote: »

they will. They lost 3 console bids to AMD and their mobile processors are not going to dominate.

Now is do or die for Nvidia as AMD are guaranteed big big income for 5+ years and AMD can and will really push nvidia hard on the consumer side

Nvidia need to stop fecking around with gimmicks and start doing proper gpus for normal price. The price tag race became a bit mad at this stage.
I really hope New Amd gpus going to be good. I would laugh if they would announce a titan sort of yoke for 1/3 of the price.

My 680 still should run everything on very respectable settings. So I might skip on upgrading this gen completely. So far only bf4 is acting out, but it's just due to beta and drivers being carp to everything that is not amd or 7 series.

deceit

I just played 20minutes there and was constantly getting 60fps with one dip down to 45fps for a few seconds.
I had it on ultra at 5760*1200. Is it just me or do the textures look worse than bf3?
I'm running a 3820k and two 7970's. All stock as I just reset my bios on my cpu and reinstalled

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Hopefully the full release will have better textures.

deceit wrote: »

I just played 20minutes there and was constantly getting 60fps with one dip down to 45fps for a few seconds.
I had it on ultra at 5760*1200. Is it just me or do the textures look worse than bf3?
I'm running a 3820k and two 7970's. All stock as I just reset my bios on my cpu and reinstalled .
Hopefully the full release will have better textures.

i find textures fine except for the skyscraper rubble but that might improve as the beta is the gamescom build from august

Sarz91

deceit wrote: »

I just played 20minutes there and was constantly getting 60fps with one dip down to 45fps for a few seconds.
I had it on ultra at 5760*1200. Is it just me or do the textures look worse than bf3?
I'm running a 3820k and two 7970's. All stock as I just reset my bios on my cpu and reinstalled .
Hopefully the full release will have better textures.

Apart from the map and the damage it feels like more of the same. I dunno if it's just me but FPS's just aren't as exciting as they used to be. Maybe it's due to the fact that I sunk about 1000 hours into bfbc2.:rolleyes:

Headshot

I really miss ww2 shooters, hate all this futuristic crap

Sarz91 wrote: »

Apart from the map and the damage it feels like more of the same. I dunno if it's just me but FPS's just aren't as exciting as they used to be. Maybe it's due to the fact that I sunk about 1000 hours into bfbc2.:rolleyes:

In fairness bc2 had a lot more interesting destruction tactic wise. You had maps in bc2, which could be completely leveled with the ground. How many times I was sitting in a house and praying for tank to go pass by, but instead the wall that I was hiding behind would turn to ashes and I would run for my life in to other structure. It was like big bad wolf and 3 piggies....

Vietnam was great too. I spent hours and hours playing that!

Genghiz Cohen

GeForce GTX BattleBox's

NVidia partnered with Scan and Overclockers and the like to sell prebuild SLI gaming rigs.

Scan 3XS Z87 Cyclone SLI
Intel Core i7 4770K overclocked to 4.6GHz
2 x 3GB EVGA GeForce GTX 780
16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro 2,133MHz
Asus RoG Maximus IV Formula
500GB Samsung Evo SSD
Water-cooled CPU, motherboard and graphics cards
From: 4,170.15€

OcUK GeForce BattleBox
Intel Core i7 4770K overclocked to 4.5GHz
Intel Z87 Chipset
16GB 2133MHz DDR3
Samsung 250GB SSD
2TB HDD
2x Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 in SLI
Corsair 850W PSU
Creative SB Cinema 7.1 HD Audio
2,836.42€

that scan system isnt a terrible price :eek: (for whats in it anyway)

£2500 for parts and os on their own exlcuding WC gear (~£500).

so £3000 on parts plus the labour and warranty

£3700~ isnt terrible value for a prebuilt.

ofc you can build it cheaper yourself and not use ram that costs £150:pac:

Gumbi

They must be binning pretty highly those 4770ks to get 4.6ghz overclocks. Or They're probably not optimally overclocked either. Haswell is a tricky beast to master.

deceit

The scan system is alot dearer as it has a full watercooled loop cpu/gpus/motherboard. This significantly adds to the price when you consider the 4 blocks alone are about 400+ then you need a better case and all the other watercooling gear.

Genghiz Cohen

Gumbi wrote: »

They must be binning pretty highly those 4770ks to get 4.6ghz overclocks. Or They're probably not optimally overclocked either. Haswell is a tricky beast to master.

Maybe they might start selling the ones that can't clock that high as Special Item or something? Since they'd have to open them to find out.

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Maybe they might start selling the ones that can't clock that high as Special Item or something? Since they'd have to open them to find out.

They're bought in tray form (no cooler) which you occasionally find HWVS. they test all the chips and those that pass go into their superclocked systems those that dont go into non overclocked pcs.

Chances are they're using some heavy voltage to keep some stable at 4.6ghz too

Dave147

Anyone have any experience booting off a bootable USB key on an ASUS UEFI mobo? Spent the last few hours upgrading my PC only to find the 1155 mobo doesn't support IDE (no surprise really), but I forgot my DVD drive is an old piece of **** that isn't SATA, made a bootable Windows USB key but even though it's being recognised as bootable it's just being ignored and Windows keeps attempting to start.

Also in situations such as this, with a new motherboard, is it possible to not delete all files and put my old files into Windows.old or does it just wipe the whole lot? That'll be a real pain in the hole!

If nobody knows how to sort this I'll just buy a SATA DVDRW tomorrow lol.

Just to clarify:
When making it bootable, did you set USB drive as active?
Are you using NTFS?
Did you properly apply bootsect /nt60 on formated drive before copying files over?
Is legacy USB enabled in BIOS?

Boot priority can be overriden on demand without messing with BIOS with F8, F11 or F12, depends on a mobo. If it's F8, make sure you bash it fast enough, otherwise SAFE mode screen will appear instead... quite annoying choice of hotkey by Asus.

You don't need to buy a DVD, it's probably something minor you overlooked, man. Been there, done that.

Dave147

raymix wrote: »

Just to clarify:
When making it bootable, did you set USB drive as active?
Are you using NTFS?
Did you properly apply bootsect /nt60 on formated drive before copying files over?
Is legacy USB enabled in BIOS?

Boot priority can be overriden on demand without messing with BIOS with F8, F11 or F12, depends on a mobo.

You don't need to buy a DVD, it's probably something minor you overlooked, man. Been there, done that.

Cheers for reply, I am using FAT32, I used a guide to format the drive, which gave me a BOOTMGR error so I used a program called 'Rufus' to do it again, this time instead of giving a BOOTMGR error, it just attempted to run Windows and reached the "Windows did not shutdown properly" screen. To which I CTRL+ALT+DEL'd out of it back to BIOS. I made the USB key the main boot drive.

If you are trying to make bootable windows installation USB drive, this is the best guide to go with:
http://unlockforus.blogspot.ie/2008/09/how-to-makecreate-bootable-usb-flash.html

Microsoft has a tool for it, but it doesn't work well with all ISO files, if you know what I mean...

Thing about your second question - upon making big changes in hardware like motherboard or CPUs, there will be problems with HAL, this layer is optimizing itself for current hardware config upon installation, when you change it, it might adjust to new changes, but it won't be optimized well enough. This is why people just wipes HDD clean and start fresh when upgrading.
However, if you are changing to a similar motherboard, you should be fine.

Dave147

My old mobo was Gigabyte and it was AM3 Socket, this is ASUS and is 1155. I've a lot of stuff that I'd like to keep on my HDD, but I can just download it again if I must.

Dave147 wrote: »

My old mobo was Gigabyte and it was AM3 Socket, this is ASUS and is 1155. I've a lot of stuff that I'd like to keep on my HDD, but I can just download it again if I must.

This one's easy, keep your stuff and tell Installer to do a clean install over current installation. You will lose everything under Program Files, Program Data and Windows folders, not sure about Documents (including Desktop), but those are easy to back up in seperate folder. Just make sure that you DON'T format your HDD when asked, simple as that.

The reason why your USB is not recognized could be also because it is initialized after everything else is done. Try to find override button (could be F8 for your Asus board, too), it always works with properly made bootable drives. This way you can also keep your HDD as primary at all times, just in case you accidentally leave any of your USB drives in a PC, in which case upon boot it will give you error and stop booting. Quite funny thing to happen, a mini heart attack ))