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Milk Price- Please read Mod note in post #1

delaval

24/6/16

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I was wondering would it be a help if we posted our milk prices. I would hope that if someone is low that help could be given, on the other hand if high perhaps your tips could help us all.

I would suggest posting your processors base inc Vat for comparison
Post your Nett price for others to help or be helped
I think that solids should be included.
I suggest any seasonal/liquid contract price be excluded or seperated.

I feel that we as farmers do a lot of bitching about processor prices and rightly so IMO. I also feel that we should not worry about it as we can do nothing about base price but we certainly do something about it at farm level.

What do you all think?

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whelan1

Mulumpy wrote: »

Do cows build a resistance to a particular teat dip if using for a long time.

nore sure but there was a sales rep here last week going on about the damage iodine based teat sprays do to the cow and farmer if used on an ongoing basis

Mulumpy

whelan1 wrote: »

nore sure but there was a sales rep here last week going on about the damage iodine based teat sprays do to the cow and farmer if used on an ongoing basis

Been using iodine based ones for years average scc is 185. Switched to Deosan yesterday will see how it goes

kevthegaff

my sister a vet says that iodine based is the best, ill ask her again this evening

Viewtodiefor

kevthegaff wrote: »

my sister a vet says that iodine based is the best, ill ask her again this evening

Used to use iodine based before, switched to virolac concentrate haven't looked back since last cell count 130 avg around 100 all year, did spike twice but found two cows with mastitis n went str8 back down again. Gives good teat condition too whereas iodine will dry out teats I believe

FT7

Mulumpy wrote: »

Do cows build a resistance to a particular teat dip if using for a long time.

I've heard that but been using deosan for 5 years now with good results, scc presently 60 , and milking a few culls OAD....... for the last few months we haevn't bothered post dipping only let the cows straight off to pasture, we still pre dip however.

I actually would prefer not to dip than use iodine base , just couldn't see worthwhile benefit from it.

whelan1

got results online for 21/09 scc well down

whelan1

Bainne ur up from 1.59 to 1.75 for 2 litres in local shop

kevthegaff

will we see a rise in septembers milk price?

whelan1

kevthegaff wrote: »

will we see a rise in septembers milk price?

any word on price?

Viewtodiefor

whelan1 wrote: »

any word on price?

Hear they are dropping it a cent Whelan , no idea why!!!

mf240

Viewtodiefor wrote: »

Hear they are dropping it a cent Whelan , no idea why!!!

Ya ya I heard it was two:P:p

whelan1

mf240 wrote: »

Ya ya I heard it was two:P:p

no, its only yours thats going down 2cpl

red bull

40c base for Sept ?

whitebriar

How are people on fixed price contracts faring?

jersey101

whitebriar wrote: »

How are people on fixed price contracts faring?

badly. Enough said.

whelan1

doesnt the first phase finish in december? thank god

delaval

whelan1 wrote: »

doesnt the first phase finish in december? thank god

I recall you being delighted with top up cheque last year. That has still to come when the inflation is calculated.

Grain guys wished they'd fixed some this year I'd say

whelan1

delaval wrote: »

I recall you being delighted with top up cheque last year. That has still to come when the inflation is calculated.

Grain guys wished they'd fixed some this year I'd say

i always welcome any cheque i get:D

delaval

Word is 40 for Sept. meeting today. Think Kerry are there so that's what I'm expecting. Hope I'm not disappointed

mf240

delaval wrote: »

Word is 40 for Sept. meeting today. Think Kerry are there so that's what I'm expecting. Hope I'm not disappointed

Heres a question.

We are paid on solids with a minus for volume.

The 40 is 3.6 and 3.3

Now let's say your solids are good and your getting the base plus ten cents.

Now does the extra increas with the price increase. Do you know what I mean. Let's say it dropped to 20 cent would the same solids net you 10 cent extra or would they drop to 5 cent over base?

delaval

mf240 wrote: »

Heres a question.

We are paid on solids with a minus for volume.

The 40 is 3.6 and 3.3

Now let's say your solids are good and your getting the base plus ten cents.

Now does the extra increas with the price increase. Do you know what I mean. Let's say it dropped to 20 cent would the same solids net you 10 cent extra or would they drop to 5 cent over base?

You are paid per kg P and kg F not volume so you are correct. If base was 30 and with same solids you will not be getting 10c extra.
Price is not based on volume as water is discounted as you correctly said

mf240

delaval wrote: »

You are paid per kg P and kg F not volume so you are correct. If base was 30 and with same solids you will not be getting 10c extra.
Price is not based on volume as water is discounted as you correctly said

Thanks for that. So the price per kg of solids increased to the equivilant of 40c per litre at standard solids.

In your estimation how far into next year will we get before the inevitable market fall back?

whitebriar

delaval wrote: »

I recall you being delighted with top up cheque last year. That has still to come when the inflation is calculated.

Grain guys wished they'd fixed some this year I'd say

Isn't the top up capped though,I thought? ie it couldn't chase current market price? meaning a loss?

Do they pay interest on the top up (after all,they have your milk) and they are not shy at charging it monthly on trading a/c's ?

#askingtheawkwardquestions

mf240

Scheme was voluntary so if you didn't like the terms then you didn't have to participate.

whitebriar

mf240 wrote: »

Scheme was voluntary so if you didn't like the terms then you didn't have to participate.

I put none into any of them.I'm just asking.I smelt a rat at the time.

slippy wicket

GIIL manufacturing price for September has been retained at 39cpl inc. VAT.

So much for a leading milk price.

It was ever thus.

slippy wicket

Sorry for bursting the 40c bubble.

delaval

delaval wrote: »

Word is 40 for Sept. meeting today. Think Kerry are there so that's what I'm expecting. Hope I'm not disappointed

Well I'm wrong again held at 39

mf240

delaval wrote: »

Well I'm wrong again held at 39

I am dissapoint.

delaval

mf240 wrote: »

Thanks for that. So the price per kg of solids increased to the equivilant of 40c per litre at standard solids.

In your estimation how far into next year will we get before the inevitable market fall back?

As sure as your head is hot they will start to make noise in Feb/Mar and it will deffo drop for May if they can. All forecasts are good till then