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Disabled parking spaces. Do you..

Ghost Buster

....park in them if you are not entitled to?
I dont want this to become a shouty fighty thread!

I loath the misuse of disabled parking spaces but what i am interested in here is fathoming the mind set of the people who park in them. In my work last night i had to chase two people, two ordinary and usually quite nice individuals out of disabled spaces in a private car park. I really just done get it.
What is your justification?

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Ghost Buster

CaliforniaDream wrote: »

Based on the amount of parents I've come across using them when the children are clearly out of the car seat.
Maybe I am wrong, but in life you generally go by the majority. The majority of people I see parking in these spots do not have babies/toddlers in a car seat or children at all.

Fair play to you. Hopefully more people learn from you.

Perhaps they are not and have never been parents and simply behave the way many posters here do.

Edit: Back at a real keyboard now!
So you base this presumption on the fact that you see many cars in parent and child spaces with no kids or car seats?
How can you tell that these cars belong to parents of grown up children?

CaliforniaDream

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Why do you think this?

Based on the amount of parents I've come across using them when the children are clearly out of the car seat.
Maybe I am wrong, but in life you generally go by the majority. The majority of people I see parking in these spots do not have babies/toddlers in a car seat or children at all.

dark crystal wrote: »

I haven't used those spaces since my kids were babies, no.

Those spaces are wider because to get a baby in and out of a car seat, you need to open the door to it's full extent. You have a trolly full of shopping, with a car seat attached to it. You have to line the trolly up beside the car, detach the car seat and put it back in the car, with the baby in it.

Now, imagine while you've been inside the supermarket, some numpty comes along and parks so close to the rear door, you can barely open it, let alone open it wide enough to install the car seat. You're kinda stuck aren't you?
This is why these wider spaces are so handy for them, so not being a selfish muppet, I leave those spaces free for people who might benefit from them and use one of the hundreds of other spaces the supermarket have provided for me as an able bodied person with no baby to use.

Fair play to you. Hopefully more people learn from you.

anncoates

Artful_Badger wrote: »

I'd park in them in some places. Some Tesco's for instance have about 20 disabled parking spaces right in front of the shops. If I'm not gonna be long I think it would be safe to assume that between when I arrive and when I leave that its unlikely 20 disabled people would show up and one poor fcuker would be forced to park elsewhere..

It only takes only 19 other non -disabled people to think likewise.in a busy carpark...

Had a row once with some tramp for parking across a disabled space in Liffey valley and ended up telling her she had misconstrued the concept and that it was for people with a physical disability and not a mental one.

Potential-Monke

dark crystal wrote: »

Not sure if you're joking....but you'll find the other couple of hundred spaces are designated for people who haven't reproduced. Are there not enough of those for you?

Gotta laugh at the posts from grown men sulking and spitting the dummy out more than the babies they resent so much. "Wah Waaah, they got a few extra wide spaces and I want one too. Waaaah!"

It was a bit of tongue in cheek alright. I was having a laugh about parents who say they need extra room for the kids, whereas us single need extra room to get the massive TV's and entertainment systems in. But i still don't believe that there should be parent & child spaces, i don't think that they should get special treatment over others. Spaces for OAP's would probably go down a bit easier.

Fighting Irish

Knine wrote: »

Then you should not be parking in a disabled bay. They are for Blue Badge Permit Holders only. You might find also that it is not easy to get a permit. You will also be clamped for parking in these spaces.

I haven't got a permit but i know for a fact if i apply ill get one

Ms. Pingui

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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It's funny, people who insist on parking closest to the door are usually the ones who could do with the most exercise.

dark crystal

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Lol. Just lol.

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dark crystal

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I don't use the parent and child spaces myself, but i don't agree with them, why should someone who has decided to reproduce get priority over someone who has decided not to have children? Where's the spaces for those who don't want children? They need extra room to get the big tv's and all that extra stuff they can buy into the car!!

And no, i don't care that you need extra room to get the kids in and out, there's always plenty of spaces at the back of the car parks!

Not sure if you're joking....but you'll find the other couple of hundred spaces are designated for people who haven't reproduced. Are there not enough of those for you?

Gotta laugh at the posts from grown men sulking and spitting the dummy out more than the babies they resent so much. "Wah Waaah, they got a few extra wide spaces and I want one too. Waaaah!"

ballyharpat

Because I transport many people with disabilities, I don't always have a permit, so what I do is write a note and leave it on the dash explaining the situation, I also leave my phone number. early on I used to ring the council/hospital and ensure it was ok, they all said that it was fine-I'm known in the area for what I do with the disabled-so now I just leave the note and have had no problems. SOmetimes it may be a temporary wheelchair bound or disabled person and they are entitled to use the space but not the tag/badge for long term use.

Knine

Fighting Irish wrote: »

I haven't got a sticker but i have an injury and find it hard getting in and out of cars, so the extra space at a disabled spot is great for me. I could probably get a sticker but i'm too lazy

Then you should not be parking in a disabled bay. They are for Blue Badge Permit Holders only. You might find also that it is not easy to get a permit. You will also be clamped for parking in these spaces.

Mr McBoatface

Fighting Irish wrote: »

I haven't got a sticker but i have an injury and find it hard getting in and out of cars, so the extra space at a disabled spot is great for me. I could probably get a sticker but i'm too lazy

To be fair to you, it sounds like you are less mobile than half the people that have the permit. You should apply for one, free parking and all that. You may as well milk the system like all the poor mouths....more luck to you.

Fighting Irish

I haven't got a sticker but i have an injury and find it hard getting in and out of cars, so the extra space at a disabled spot is great for me. I could probably get a sticker but i'm too lazy

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mutley18

Nah, I just lob it up on the footpath and put on my flashing indicator parking lights.

Potential-Monke

I don't use the parent and child spaces myself, but i don't agree with them, why should someone who has decided to reproduce get priority over someone who has decided not to have children? Where's the spaces for those who don't want children? They need extra room to get the big tv's and all that extra stuff they can buy into the car!!

And no, i don't care that you need extra room to get the kids in and out, there's always plenty of spaces at the back of the car parks!

Chancer3001

They should reserve the front row of the car park for people over 65.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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I love the dirty looks I get when I use them

ted1

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Fred not all kids scream some are pleasant. There like adults you do get loud obnoxious ones and you get good mannered ones

Fred Swanson

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They're parent and child spaces now

ted1

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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There's no legal definition of being a dick. But I have no regrets calling some people one.

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ted1

Patent and child spaces are also located againest the building so as preventing the kids ( toddlers ) from having to cross the car park. They go syraight from car to foot path

Potential-Monke

Ok, to those who say the "private" car parks, like Tesco, Lidl, etc cannot be deemed official disabled spaces, they are wrong. The Road Traffic Act defines a public place under Section 3 of the Act of 1961 "means any street, road or other place to which the public have access with vehicles whether as of right or by permission and whether subject to or free of charge". This includes these car parks, so the law can be enforced on people who park in them. The only car parks excluded by them are the barrier/gate operated ones which require a fob (not the "take a ticket" ones).

And for me personally, i detest anyone who parks in them without needing them, regardless of the amount of unused spaces there. It's morally wrong, even if there are more spaces there than needed. The law is the law, even if you feel you're not going to inconvenience anyone. You can use the excuse of common sense all you like, but it doesn't excuse that you're breaking the law. And i would normally say it to someone if it was blatantly obvious that they did not have some underlying medical condition that required them to park there. And i won't accuse someone straight off, i would simple ask them if they needed to park there, and their response is easily indictable of if they need it or not.

dark crystal

CaliforniaDream wrote: »

To the parents complaining about people parking in the 'parent and child' spots - I presume once your baby is no longer needing a car seat you yourself don't park in those spots? If I'm reading people's posts correctly, it's so you have enough room for the car seat and no other reason?

Somehow I think my presumption is wrong.

I haven't used those spaces since my kids were babies, no.

Those spaces are wider because to get a baby in and out of a car seat, you need to open the door to it's full extent. You have a trolly full of shopping, with a car seat attached to it. You have to line the trolly up beside the car, detach the car seat and put it back in the car, with the baby in it.

Now, imagine while you've been inside the supermarket, some numpty comes along and parks so close to the rear door, you can barely open it, let alone open it wide enough to install the car seat. You're kinda stuck aren't you?
This is why these wider spaces are so handy for them, so not being a selfish muppet, I leave those spaces free for people who might benefit from them and use one of the hundreds of other spaces the supermarket have provided for me as an able bodied person with no baby to use.

crazygeryy

DaaaaaaaaaaN wrote: »

I always report those arseholes immediately.

to who if you dont mind me asking.?

cruiser178

I park in disabled parking spaces all the time, not because i want to annoy anyone, it's because i drive a nice big Audi and am entitled to park there

ted1

mcko wrote: »

Disabled spaces are bigger to allow acces for wheel chairs ect, it's not that they are closer.
If you are not disabled and you park in a disabled space then shame on you.
I work with a guy who has a disabled badge for his mother and uses the badge when she is not in the car.
It's amazing what you can justify to yourself.

Yes they are bigger but they are also the closest to the door.

mcko

Disabled spaces are bigger to allow acces for wheel chairs ect, it's not that they are closer.
If you are not disabled and you park in a disabled space then shame on you.
I work with a guy who has a disabled badge for his mother and uses the badge when she is not in the car.
It's amazing what you can justify to yourself.