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why are there no J D Wetherspoon pubs in ROI?

dd972

You'd think with the boozing culture we have they'd have colonised our town and cities some time ago, plus costwise they'd annihilate the opposition paying through the nose for their Guinness and Heineken.

Only heard bit and bobs of rumour as to why there's no Spoon pubs here ranging from the fact that it's in the Eurozone and it doesn't fit in with their business plan and the Victuallers Association here are keeping them out by some means or other, anybody heard anything more substantial?

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L1011

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

And let me guess, some obsure Japanese rice brewed lager would go down a storm with the chin strokers, but because Bud is big, it's ****e.

This has a relevance to your absolutely ridiculous claim how? Regardless, rice beer is gank, no matter where its from. Asahi is OK, but that's about it.

Bud does not taste anything like Budvar. If you think it does, your tastebuds are destroyed or non-existent.

April O Neill

*shudder*

Hate Wetherspoons. Found myself in the Cardiff one once. It was an unnerving experience.

Sunglasses Ron

Seaneh wrote: »

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Read the ingredients list for both. Budvar doesn't have ****ing rice in it.

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And let me guess, some obsure Japanese rice brewed lager would go down a storm with the chin strokers, but because Bud is big, it's ****e.

Is there literally not one popular beer that is decent according to the snobs? What is so awful about the common mans tastes that the liKes of Heineken and Carlsberg have to apparently make themselves awful?

dan1895

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

If Bud was presented with a description of being brewed in an overtly traditional non factory way since the dark ages do you doubt it would not be critically lauded?.

I don't give a **** about description, I care about taste and Bud tastes of nothing.

MonkstownHoop

Sunggripes Ron wrote: »

My ****ing arse.

If you served Budweiser to a beer snob out of an unmarked tap in a craft bar and told him on the menu it was a smooth, crisp beer brewed since 1892 in a Slovak monastery, the dopey hipster prick would be raving about it whilst simultaneously badmouthing Bud as commercial crap. I remember n article a while back when they gave critics Tesco branded wine and gave them another Tesco wine but with a fake label the critics slated the branded wine and raved about the unmarked Tesco wine.

Ha ha get a grip

Seaneh

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

Well that's odd because the first time I had a Budvar was in Prague. The odd thing about Prague is that despite being apparently the European centre of beer, apart from Budvar most bars only have about two or three other beers on tap, the place gets pretty repetitive. Great ciy for a lads session but **** you get pretty bored of drinking Pilsner Urquell (??) and Gambrinus (?) for a week straight.

Prague is the European centre stag parties, pissed up lads weekends and for one type of beer, pislner, they aren't really known for anything besides one or two styles of lager.

If you want to call anywhere the "European centre for beer" you might want to visit Brussels. Hell, even London would be a better place to start.

Seaneh

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

Of course they would.

Budvar is a highly regarded Czech beer.

Bud is regarded as yank toilet water.

Apart from the fact Budvar has slightly more of a kick to the taste due to its slightly higher alcohol volume Budweiser and Budvar taste nearly identical.

Try telling that to a beer snob. You'd have more chance of getting blowjob off the pope.

Budvar tastes very unlike Budweiser.

Read the ingredients list for both. Budvar doesn't have ****ing rice in it.

The only thing they have in common is they are both light, pale lagers.

Sunglasses Ron

dan1895 wrote: »

Whatever about the tesco wine but that is complete bull. Your basically saying Bud tastes like craft beer?? Get real.

If Bud was presented with a description of being brewed in an overtly traditional non factory way since the dark ages do you doubt it would not be critically lauded? I reckon within 100 years someone will set up a "real" Irish draught brand, and Guinness will become regarded as commercial touristy ****e that is contaminated by the Bud and other big names brewed in the same plant.

L1011

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

Because the lad who quoted me seemed to think I had sank ten pints of Bud before trying a Budvar and thinking it was the same. Budvar and Budweiser are like Opel and Vauxhall, and no amount of pretentious hipster **** will convince anyone smart enough otherwise.

They're not even the same type of beer. They're not made from the same ingredients. There isn't a hope in hell they taste the same.

You clearly have no working tastebuds.

Sunglasses Ron

MYOB wrote: »

I have no idea what the relevance of where you first had it was.

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Because the lad who quoted me seemed to think I had sank ten pints of Bud before trying a Budvar and thinking it was the same. Budvar and Budweiser are like Opel and Vauxhall, and no amount of pretentious hipster **** will convince anyone smart enough otherwise.

L1011

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

Well that's odd because the first time I had a Budvar was in Prague. The odd thing about Prague is that despite being apparently the European centre of beer, apart from Budvar most bars only have about two or three other beers on tap, the place gets pretty repetitive.

I have no idea what the relevance of where you first had it was.

Most European bars only have a small number of beers on tap. Ditto the UK. The Irish situation of 10+, nearly all served badly, is unique. European bars usually have a hell of a lot more bottled.

In Copenhagen most bars I was in had 3 taps - Carlsberg, Carls Special ale and Tuborg. Hipster-loved places have Guinness for some reason. All had a huge range of bottled though.

Sunglasses Ron

MYOB wrote: »

After about ten other beers, someone might get confused.

If you think those two taste the same otherwise, you need to get your tongue examined, urgently. The fact that they're not even made of the same ingredients might be a very obvious indicator.

Well that's odd because the first time I had a Budvar was in Prague. The odd thing about Prague is that despite being apparently the European centre of beer, apart from Budvar most bars only have about two or three other beers on tap, the place gets pretty repetitive. Great ciy for a lads session but **** you get pretty bored of drinking Pilsner Urquell (??) and Gambrinus (?) for a week straight.

VinLieger

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

My ****ing arse.

If you served Budweiser to a beer snob out of an unmarked tap in a craft bar and told him on the menu it was a smooth, crisp beer brewed since 1892 in a Slovak monastery, the dopey hipster prick would be raving about it whilst simultaneously badmouthing Bud as commercial crap. I remember n article a while back when they gave critics Tesco branded wine and gave them another Tesco wine but with a fake label the critics slated the branded wine and raved about the unmarked Tesco wine.

LOL your taking shite, as much as you would like them all to be pretentious snobs most of them actually just prefer to pay for something they enjoy than be seen to be drinking a specific brand that tastes like gone off water

Links234

if you think someone couldn't taste the difference between a bud and a cask ale, you're very wrong.

EyeSight

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

My ****ing arse.

If you served Budweiser to a beer snob out of an unmarked tap in a craft bar and told him on the menu it was a smooth, crisp beer brewed since 1892 in a Slovak monastery, the dopey hipster prick would be raving about it whilst simultaneously badmouthing Bud as commercial crap. I remember n article a while back when they gave critics Tesco branded wine and gave them another Tesco wine but with a fake label the critics slated the branded wine and raved about the unmarked Tesco wine.

i sort of agree with you. I think a lot would notice the difference, but i'm sick of getting a lecture from hipster craft beer drinkers. It's not like i go around telling them Budweiser is so great.

L1011

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

Of course they would.

Budvar is a highly regarded Czech beer.

Bud is regarded as yank toilet water.

Apart from the fact Budvar has slightly more of a kick to the taste due to its slightly higher alcohol volume Budweiser and Budvar taste nearly identical.

Try telling that to a beer snob. You'd have more chance of getting blowjob off the pope.

After about ten other beers, someone might get confused.

If you think those two taste the same otherwise, you need to get your tongue examined, urgently. The fact that they're not even made of the same ingredients might be a very obvious indicator.

dan1895

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

My ****ing arse.

If you served Budweiser to a beer snob out of an unmarked tap in a craft bar and told him on the menu it was a smooth, crisp beer brewed since 1892 in a Slovak monastery, the dopey hipster prick would be raving about it whilst simultaneously badmouthing Bud as commercial crap. I remember n article a while back when they gave critics Tesco branded wine and gave them another Tesco wine but with a fake label the critics slated the branded wine and raved about the unmarked Tesco wine.

Whatever about the tesco wine but that is complete bull. Your basically saying Bud tastes like craft beer?? Get real.

Sunglasses Ron

Seaneh wrote: »

No, they wouldn't.

So stop talking ****ing nonsense.

Of course they would.

Budvar is a highly regarded Czech beer.

Bud is regarded as yank toilet water.

Apart from the fact Budvar has slightly more of a kick to the taste due to its slightly higher alcohol volume Budweiser and Budvar taste nearly identical.

Try telling that to a beer snob. You'd have more chance of getting blowjob off the pope.

Seaneh

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

My ****ing arse.

If you served Budweiser to a beer snob out of an unmarked tap in a craft bar and told him on the menu it was a smooth, crisp beer brewed since 1892 in a Slovak monastery, the dopey hipster prick would be raving about it whilst simultaneously badmouthing Bud as commercial crap.

No, they wouldn't.

So stop talking ****ing nonsense.

Sunglasses Ron

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

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If Irish people want to pay €5-6 for a pint of heinkien when they can get a pint of an interesting and better made ale for €3-4, then it's their fault we get ripped off

My ****ing arse.

If you served Budweiser to a beer snob out of an unmarked tap in a craft bar and told him on the menu it was a smooth, crisp beer brewed since 1892 in a Slovak monastery, the dopey hipster prick would be raving about it whilst simultaneously badmouthing Bud as commercial crap. I remember n article a while back when they gave critics Tesco branded wine and gave them another Tesco wine but with a fake label the critics slated the branded wine and raved about the unmarked Tesco wine.

L1011

dd972 wrote: »

Imagine what a Wetherspoons on Eden Quay or Talbot St would be like! I'm sure such a company does their homework on catchment areas and clientele though.

Not really, they've some rough as feck ones in the UK. They're more concerned about architecture from what I've seen - they have some fantastic looking buildings, very often old banks.

I use them for food and maybe a few drinks in the evening if in the UK for work. I wouldn't ever consider going out to one as a local; but they usually have the effect of reducing prices and sometimes even increasing quality at nearby pubs which have to try compete. They also remove some of the undesirables from the local pubs.

Gummy Panda

I had westherspoons for breakfast when I went to the NEC. It was quite nice

diomed

Ruubot2 wrote: »

How does Southern Ireland or Eire work for you then? Fussy!

British Isles innit mate?

Ruu

diomed wrote: »

ROI?
We didn't all cram into the GPO to be called ROI.

How does Southern Ireland or Eire work for you then? Fussy!

diomed

ROI?
We didn't all cram into the GPO to be called ROI.

dd972

Imagine what a Wetherspoons on Eden Quay or Talbot St would be like! I'm sure such a company does their homework on catchment areas and clientele though.

Highflyer13

I think these will be huge success in Ireland if they get their pricing right. Most Dublin city centre pubs charge extortionate prices. Vintners federation will probably
do their best to stop it happening though as they're a bit like a cartel when it comes to alcohol pricing.

murpho999

ScumLord wrote: »

I've never seen a £2 breakfast, unless it's basically just a sausage samwidge.

I've had the breakfast in witherspoons and it's certainly not the worst. I had a read of their own magazine at the time. They claim they buy direct from farms, with the size of them I'd believe it. Witherspoons have buying power and that would allow them to offer meals quite cheaply. I'm not saying it's great food but for the price of a mcdonalds meal you can get something pretty decent and fairly healthy in witherspoons.

Comparing a Weatherspoons meal to a McDonalds meal is not a good reference point to be honest.

I have had a look at their menu on the website and it's far from healthy. Especially the large breakfast.

Weatherspoons Menu
To their credit, they show all the fats and calories etc of every dish and the food is no different to the average much served in most Irish pubs.

ScumLord

murpho999 wrote: »

A Weatherspoon's breakfast composed of many parts and being cooked by staff must be composed of cheap and low quality food to be sold for £2.

I've never seen a £2 breakfast, unless it's basically just a sausage samwidge.

I've had the breakfast in witherspoons and it's certainly not the worst. I had a read of their own magazine at the time. They claim they buy direct from farms, with the size of them I'd believe it. Witherspoons have buying power and that would allow them to offer meals quite cheaply. I'm not saying it's great food but for the price of a mcdonalds meal you can get something pretty decent and fairly healthy in witherspoons.

murpho999

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

For the same reason i never will never eat the shíte that comes out of lidl or aldi

I really try to eat healthy.
For what it's worth I buy stuff in Lidl all the time and their quality is very very high.
Irish supermarkets have just been charging higher prices and it had nothing to do with quality.
You cannot compare Lidl/Aldi quality in this case.

A Weatherspoon's breakfast composed of many parts and being cooked by staff must be composed of cheap and low quality food to be sold for £2.

However, Lidl selling individual food items cheaper than Superquinn, Tesco or Dunnes is being competitive.