Ghost Buster wrote: » They arent just for wheel chair users.
whatdoicare wrote: » His car has been broken into twice to steal the sticker so he started hiding it on the visor.
Senor Fancy Pants wrote: » That's nice Paddy...have you any other hints/tips or suggestions? Maybe rollerblades could be easier than walking -[wink, wink]-
VONSHIRACH wrote: » I know yes, but nobody ever parks in them.
freshface2 wrote: » Lots of people park in disabled bays but never get caught
Grandpa Hassan wrote: » It's not illegal. Just questionable social etiquette. So dont think 'getting caught' is really on the mind of those that do it
paddy147 wrote: » Hey,all I have done is post the rules and conditions for the permit/sticker. If you are disabled and park in a disabled space,then you display the permit where it can be seen from outside the car. Its that simple.:)
fussyonion wrote: » I have a family member who has a badge, is not wheelchair bound, but has chronic arthritis in her ankles and knees, can walk about 10 yards before stopping to rest. She applied for the badge, received it, is entitled to use it and you should hear the people who question her when she parks in a disabled bay. "What's wrong with you, you're not in a wheelchair!" Sorry, but you don't have to be wheelchair bound to have a badge and I wish people would mind their own fcuking business when they see someone WITH A BADGE parking in the space. That person's disability is none of your business and if they have a badge, it's because they were entitled to one. If you park in a disabled bay and DON'T have a badge, you deserve to pay a hefty fine. I also hate when someone without a badge parks in one and when questioned, says "My mother here can't walk". SO WHAT? Tell her to apply for a badge, ffs!
Artful_Badger wrote: » . Fcuk the badge, lets all just use some common sense.
wexie wrote: » It is an offence to park a vehicle in an accessible parking bay unless you have a current, valid, Disabled Parking Permit. If you illegally park in an accessible parking bay, you will incur a fine of €80.00, with 28 days to pay. If you fail to pay that fine within 28 days, the fine increases to €120.00Disabledparking spaces are off limits at all times to all motorists unless you have an appropriate permit
K.Flyer wrote: » Not sure if this enforceable in private car parks including shopping centres, or is it?
wexie wrote: » And that would be to NOT parking in a disabled space when you have no business doing so. That way people that need them will be able to use them when they come along. Glad you've finally seen the light
Senor Fancy Pants wrote: » What are you, the sticker police? Do you mention this to the people you see parking in the spots on the rainy days Paddy? You should just approach them and just tell them the rules and conditions for using the spots. :)
Artful_Badger wrote: » That's the other extreme, denying someone who actually needs to park there use of the space because they dont have a badge. A badge isnt the defining factor in whether someone is disabled or not. A person either needs the space or they dont, someone who isnt disabled is either inconveniencing people or they are not by using it. Fcuk the badge, lets all just use some common sense.
Artful_Badger wrote: » And I'm glad you have come around too. The key issue is spaces being available for the people who need them, after all that's why they are there. If there is more of a chance of you spontaneously combusting than someone not having a disabled parking space available for them then there is absolutely no logical reason why you shouldnt use one.
paddy147 wrote: » Wow......whats with all the harshness here? All I did was post a link and the rules for the display of a disabled pemit Doesnt EVERYONE have to abide by rules??:) If a disabled persons car gets clamped when parked in a disabled spece ,then is the clamper to blame because he could not see a valid permit/sticker from outside the car? Oh and yes I previously have reported cars for parking in a disabled space,when there is no parmit on display....most recently a large black Toyota Jeep parked in a space in Lidl in Artane
paddy147 wrote: » Wow......whats with all the harshness here? All I did was post a link and the rules for the display of a disabled pemit Doesnt EVERYONE have to abide by rules??:) If a disabled persons car gets clamped when parked in a disabled spece ,then is the clamper to blame because he could not see a valid permit/sticker from outside the car? Oh and yes I have reported cars for parking in a disabled space,when there is no parmit on display....most recently a large black Toyota Jeep parked in a space in Lidl in Artane
Senor Fancy Pants wrote: » Looks to me like you are winding people up.....especially the ones here who have family members who need the permits. I'm sure they are more than aware that they need to be displayed. Posting "helpful" excerpts and using emoticons don't hide sly digs.:);):)
paddy147 wrote: » Its not a dig a dig at all....far from it at all. Everyone human being has to follow and obey rules If you have a permit,then you display it,so then you cant get any hassle from anyone or get in trouble with the law or get clamped by an eagle eyed clamper.
Senor Fancy Pants wrote: » Good point. The same way non disabled people should not use disabled spots. Irregardless of whether its raining, there are 20 spots, "sure il only be a minute" etc. Rules are rules.
wexie wrote: » Look, I'm glad you've managed to convince yourself it's okay to park in disabled spaces. As far as I'm concerned it's inconsiderate, selfish, ignorant and loutish behaviour that automatically puts you in the category of ignorant scum, no different than the knackers running up and shouting in peoples faces.
I assume you only do this in private car parks, where you know it can't be enforced, rather than also in public carparks. So you're doing something which you know to be wrong, only cause you can get away with it.
Artful_Badger wrote: » As opposed to hurling insults at and condoning vandalism against people who's behavior you find objectionable. Yeah I'm the scumbag :rolleyes: The fact of this matter is that I dont inconvenience anyone. I would never take a space that someone would need. Now it might not matter to you whether someone needs it or not but I dont work of nonsense and bullshít, I dont take my cue off a painted sign on the ground, I work off logic, reason and empathy and apply that to the real world. If there are 20 disabled spaces available and I'm gonna be parked for a grand total of 5 minutes, it is all but impossible for me to inconvenience anyone. Once again I dont take my moral cue from the local authority, and I'm intelligent enough to know the difference between taking one of few public spaces in a busy area and taking one of many unused spaces in a quiet private car park. Its not wrong and it doesnt take much thought to understand that either. But you're the type of person who's quicker to insult and condone illegal behavior than discuss it though aren't you ? But you cant be wrong because everyone else is just a knacker right ? :rolleyes:
Artful_Badger wrote: » Its lazy and ignorant to use a space that nobody else is using or will need to use ? I myself call it not going out of my way to so as not to inconvenience imaginary people. In a place with more disabled spaces than they will ever need to cater for the amount of disabled people using their shop there is absolutely no reason why I shouldn't park in them for a brief moment to run in and out (even if every disabled driver in the country descended on the place while I was in the shop I'd still be out before they had all managed to park). And unless you park as far away from the shop as you can then you're in no position to be calling me lazy either. You like me park as close as you can because its the logical thing to do. So I am neither lazy or ignorant.
ballyharpat wrote: » Back on topic now though, what pisses me off along with people using disabled parking spots, is people that use wheelchair friendly toilets, the amount of times I have been waiting outside one, I knock on the door and 99% of the time, whoever comes out is a perfectly able person without a wheelchair, on more than one occasion, it has been teenage girls stepping out and then the justification has been, 'I wasn't using it, I just needed the mirror' I mean seriously, wtf, these are probably the same kids that are brought up by parents who tell them to slam their door off the car next to them, because society hasn't provided them with a parking spot for them to do whatever they f-ing want....
VONSHIRACH wrote: » Some disabled parking spaces don't make any sense. I live in 2006 development of about 700 duplex apartments and 2 and 3 storey houses. There are disabled spaces dotted around. No wheelchair user could live in these properties or visit friends here!
Artful_Badger wrote: » As opposed to hurling insults at and condoning vandalism against people who's behavior you find objectionable :rolleyes: The fact of this matter is that I dont inconvenience anyone. I would never take a space that someone would need. Now it might not matter to you whether someone needs it or not but I dont work of nonsense and bullshít, I dont take my cue off a painted sign on the ground, I work off logic, reason and empathy and apply that to the real world. If there are 20 disabled spaces available and I'm gonna be parked for a grand total of 5 minutes, it is all but impossible for me to inconvenience anyone. Once again I dont take my moral cue from the local authority, and I'm intelligent enough to know the difference between taking one of few public spaces in a busy area and taking one of many unused spaces in a quiet private car park. Its not wrong and it doesnt take much thought to understand that either. But you're the type of person who's quicker to insult and condone illegal behavior than discuss it though aren't you ? But you cant be wrong because everyone else is just a knacker right ? :rolleyes:
wexie wrote: » Like I already said, there's no amount of justification to make it right. You keep telling yourself you're right, it won't make it true. May there be many clampings in your future, you deserve every single one of them.
Duck's hoop wrote: » Ok so you get dispensation. Just cos its you. You ever think that if all other able bodied drivers used your logic there'd be no spaces left for genuine users? As just in case you've never noticed, that's exactly what happens. 'Theres far to many, I'll only be a minute'. 20 people think that and there are no spaces remaining v quickly.
ViveLaVie wrote: » Sorry where are these carparks with 20 consecutive disabled parking spaces? I've only ever seen one or two and as countless posters have pointed out, someone may drive by and need the space, see it's in use and drive away again. So you'd have no idea whether you're inconveniencing anyone or not. What difference does it make to you to park a few metres further away?
