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Equity tomorrow. What are people predicting/hoping for with injunctions. I would like some sort of essay on Campus Oil principles and deviation from them or an essay on Anton Piller, Marevas.

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rickety cricket

Have City Colleges given any night before notes for Tort? Its the only one i'd like to see... Typical!

[Deleted User]

Is the Buchanan/Duomatic principle not on the company syllabus? It's not mentioned specifically but it could come under members' and directors' meetings?

Quite confused as to what exactly I should be learning... My college notes are easier to learn from since I've learned them before. Like, I have the City Colleges 2011-2012 manual but I'm finding that it gives too little information in a lot of areas and I feel like it wouldn't adequately prepare me to answer exam questions alone (for example, there's only one paragraph and no case law on retention of title but this has previously been examined as a question in itself!).

Lawstudent007

chops018 wrote: »

I'm only saying the above from my own experience. I know everyone is different when it comes to studying but this sitting will be for (hopefully) my final two exams, so I've been down the long road with these horrible FE's and know a bit about some different ways of studying.

I must admit, I am (and did) find it hard for motivation in the last while for study. Here's hoping for a good final two weeks of study.

Well, this is my first sitting and I know I am in for a rough ride. Having done my degree last year it just seems that condensing the manual down to roughly 4 pages per chapter is wrong! For the degree we needed more in depth analysis but obviously it's the other way around for these monsters. I haven't done any exam questions per se but I have looked at them and their answers. I think the main thing is spotting the issues and once you've manage to identify them roughly trot down the principles with a few cases and then conclude.

I'm hoping I'm right but my main worry is whether the stuff I studied will come up!!!

chops018

Lawstudent007 wrote: »

Thanks Chops. I really appreciate your input and followed your advice re studying that you've put up earlier. Now just hoping to retain it all for the next two and half weeks while I'm focussing on company, criminal and contract!!! Ah... Living the dream!

I'm only saying the above from my own experience. I know everyone is different when it comes to studying but this sitting will be for (hopefully) my final two exams, so I've been down the long road with these horrible FE's and know a bit about some different ways of studying.

I must admit, I am (and did) find it hard for motivation in the last while for study. Here's hoping for a good final two weeks of study.

Lawstudent007

chops018 wrote: »

If you know them all fairly well then that seems to be most of the course.

Add in knowing the likes of proportionality really well, and some new cases or topical discussion then I reckon you're on a winner bar a horrible exam paper.

Thanks Chops. I really appreciate your input and followed your advice re studying that you've put up earlier. Now just hoping to retain it all for the next two and half weeks while I'm focussing on company, criminal and contract!!! Ah... Living the dream!

chops018

CRM1 wrote: »

That seems to be sufficient, maybe just to be sure to add in the principles of judicial review if you haven't already just to be sure. I have more or less the same covered and to be honest it is just seriously bad luck if questions come up not pertaining to the above! So I'm hoping that I'm covered more concerned about exam technique at this stage, as its only 35mins per question to get the most important parts down as well as the case law!

Exactly this!

Now is the time to be focusing on retaining case names and seeing how exactly you will go about answering a question, and knowing what kind of questions usually arise for certain topics, especially if the questions don't mix topics.

It's all about getting down and revising from next week (for me anyway), just drilling case names into the head. You should have a good/decent understanding at this stage and be able to remember the gist of a topic at the very least.

CRM1

Lawstudent007 wrote: »

So this is what I am doing for Constitution:
Interpretation; Nation People and the State; Seperation of Powers; President; Fundemental Rights; Unenumerated Rights including livelihood; Right to life with unborn; Equality; Due Process; Private Property; Family and Education.

Do you guys think this I covered myself for 5 questions in the exam?

That seems to be sufficient, maybe just to be sure to add in the principles of judicial review if you haven't already just to be sure. I have more or less the same covered and to be honest it is just seriously bad luck if questions come up not pertaining to the above! So I'm hoping that I'm covered more concerned about exam technique at this stage, as its only 35mins per question to get the most important parts down as well as the case law!

chops018

Lawstudent007 wrote: »

So this is what I am doing for Constitution:
Interpretation; Nation People and the State; Seperation of Powers; President; Fundemental Rights; Unenumerated Rights including livelihood; Right to life with unborn; Equality; Due Process; Private Property; Family and Education.

Do you guys think this I covered myself for 5 questions in the exam?

If you know them all fairly well then that seems to be most of the course.

Add in knowing the likes of proportionality really well, and some new cases or topical discussion then I reckon you're on a winner bar a horrible exam paper.

Lawstudent007

So this is what I am doing for Constitution:
Interpretation; Nation People and the State; Seperation of Powers; President; Fundemental Rights; Unenumerated Rights including livelihood; Right to life with unborn; Equality; Due Process; Private Property; Family and Education.

Do you guys think this I covered myself for 5 questions in the exam?

Tom Young

Definition but no the pure Classification type of question.

michelle2000

Tom Young wrote: »

You can include them all yes.

The prosecutor usually select the highest.

Tom thanks a million - very helpful! I have just pulled together a note on the different types of crime - hoping that might make an appearance as definition of a crime came up in March?

Anyway - appreciate the response thanks.

On a side note; does anyone have the criminal (or equity) independent college 'guide to the syllabus' that they offer which shows the analysis/likelihood of certain areas coming up? I have property/contract and would be willing to swap.

Tom Young

michelle2000 wrote: »

Hi all; quick criminal question; does anyone know if you could be charged with assault causing harm (S3 NFOAP 1997) or serious harm (S4 FFOAP 1997) AND assault with intent (s18 Criminal Justice Public Order Act 1994) at the same time? Amounting to two counts?

If you have intent to cause harm, and cause minor harm (which doesnt have MensRea element) are you charged with two counts under both s18 CJ 1994 and s3 NFOAP1997?

Failing to grasp where assault with intent comes into play/why there is a need for it as NFOAP seems to cover it anyway?
Thanks

You can include them all yes.

The prosecutor usually select the highest.

You know S.2 is summary but imported to S.3, then S.4 is different as it is not assault - but causing serious harm. Now, it is often the case than the extent of injury is unclear - see S.1 for the causing harm and causing serious harm definitions.

18.—(1) Any person who assaults any person with intent to cause bodily harm or to commit an indictable offence shall be guilty of an offence.

Do you know what an indictable offence is? .... starting point. You should for the FE1s as the Classification of Offences is asked almost every second sitting.

Treason, Felony and Misdemeanor [Now replaced by CLA 1997];
Summary v Indictable & Hybrid;
Minor v non-Minor;
Arrestable v Non-Arrestable (CLA 1997 - Would be required to be know also for a CJ TFA 2001 S.12/13 question of a CL(D&TD) 2011 - Barnes/Nally type question - along with S.18 Self-Defence);
Serious v Non-Serious (Bail Act).

Nothing wrong with including S.18 if the fact pattern allows for it.

Differences: S.2/3/4 are result offences with intention and reckless inbuilt. S.18 would appear to be slightly different, also evaluate the toll and the Act it comes in.

Hope this helps.

Lawstudent007

CRM1 wrote: »

Know how you feel, I'm the same think I've a good bit done then I realise how much I haven't done!:(

Well it got to that stage where I probably won't have time to focus on everything and I'm doing roughly 8-10 chapters for each of my subjects... Hope it will be sufficient.

[Deleted User]

cooper1234 wrote: »

Does anyone know for company law can you bring in the McCann and Courtney student edition 1963-2012. I can't find the 1963-2009 edition anywhere

I spoke to them on the phone today and they said it doesn't matter which edition it is

Also it is crazy hard to get through to them - I'd already emailed them two days ago and tried ringing yesterday. I know they're probably swamped with queries at the minute but with the amount of money we're paying to do these exams you'd think they could at least make an effort to respond promptly.

CRM1

Lawstudent007 wrote: »

It seems impossible to remember so much work for these exams not in a good place right now, feeling swamped!

Know how you feel, I'm the same think I've a good bit done then I realise how much I haven't done!:(

michelle2000

Hi all; quick criminal question; does anyone know if you could be charged with assault causing harm (S3 NFOAP 1997) or serious harm (S4 FFOAP 1997) AND assault with intent (s18 Criminal Justice Public Order Act 1994) at the same time? Amounting to two counts?

If you have intent to cause harm, and cause minor harm (which doesnt have MensRea element) are you charged with two counts under both s18 CJ 1994 and s3 NFOAP1997?

Failing to grasp where assault with intent comes into play/why there is a need for it as NFOAP seems to cover it anyway?
Thanks

cooper1234

Does anyone know for company law can you bring in the McCann and Courtney student edition 1963-2012. I can't find the 1963-2009 edition anywhere

Lawstudent007

It seems impossible to remember so much work for these exams

not in a good place right now, feeling swamped!

hullaballoo

If you haven't seen The Shining, you could stay in the Gresham. Reasonable rates most of the time.

The rates seem to be quite high during the two weeks of exams. You might get a deal from one of the deal sites like trivago etc.

michelle2000

Fe1exams wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a hostel in Dublin for the exams - id like to be closer to the town center.

A hostel might be tough going during exams - not sure how quiet it would be - any hostels near the town centre will be busy with tourists and people not thinking in the slightest about exams? I would definitely recommend staying in a hotel!

the ibis hotel near the red cow is 50euro a night, otherwise the red cow itself b&b is 75ish.

if you want to be in the centre then id probably recommend any hotel/hostel on the red luas line - the aisling hotel is right by hueston or the generator hostel is close to luas line too.

Fe1exams

Can anyone recommend a hostel in Dublin for the exams - id like to be closer to the town center.

chops018

S12b wrote: »

When will the results be out for the October exams?

It's nearly always 6 Fridays after the last exam. I'm guessing Friday the 22nd of November for this year. They were out on Friday the 23rd of November last year.

Milkypops

does anyone have the exam papers for equity and company from march 2013....willing to swap for notes, grids, sample answers etc!

rocksch2

S12b wrote: »

When will the results be out for the October exams?

Towards the end of November, you won't know a date until after the exams

S12b

When will the results be out for the October exams?

Lawstudent007

CRM1 wrote: »

Hey... for those of you doing constitutional are ye putting a major focus on abortion for an exam question? re recent legal developments?!

Na, just doing what's in the Manual... Behind as it is already just want to make sure i cover everything instead that way you can dodge that question if need be!

CRM1

Hey... for those of you doing constitutional are ye putting a major focus on abortion for an exam question? re recent legal developments?!

Milkypops

can anyone tell me what came up in the october 2012 sitting for tort please??

FEBun

Hi

I have the October 2013 (this sitting) night before notes from independent for contract property tort and equity. Looking for criminal in exchange. Also willing to exchange for city colleges equivalents!

PM me thanks!

michelle2000

Hi all - i don't suppose anyone has a recent list of all the criminal legislation? working from an 09 manual and have a complete list of the legislation that was made in 2010 - but just wondering if there's much to be added since.

if anyone wants the dated one - let me know and i can send on!