Tony EH wrote: » You're not even remotely qualified to suggest a breakdown of target priority or list the targets that have been hit on any side of the conflict. All you're going on is basic wish fulfillment.
realweirdo wrote: » Most of their victims have been military personal who were carrying out Assad's scorched earth policies so I don't think too many would lament their loss.
realweirdo wrote: » Not close to what Assad has killed. They don't own MIGS, Scuds, Chemical Weapons, thousands of tanks, and hundreds of artillary and mortar weapons. Most of their operations are against military targets such as tanks, airfields, bases and checkpoints. Most of their victims have been military personal who were carrying out Assad's scorched earth policies so I don't think too many would lament their loss.
esteve wrote: » Is english your first language? From your very own article.. "EU OFFICIALS have agreed that the August 21 chemical attack outside Damascus appears to have been the work of Syria's regime" This very statement is entirley the opposite to cut and dry. It means that its possible it was him, not that it was definately him. Obama even came out and said it was likely to have been Assad, but not that without doubt it was him. For some bizarre reason, you have taken from this article it was 100% Assad, and I really do not understand how you have come to this conclusion. It is fine to say that it seems or appears that it was him, but to categorically state that it was Assad after reading some article that doesnt even say so is real weird.
realweirdo wrote: » EU now agreed Assad used chemical weapons.http://www.independent.ie/incoming/eu-backs-claims-that-syria-was-responsible-for-chemical-attacks-29560889.html I think its fairly cut and dried now that Assad did use them.
dublinbhoy88 wrote: » How many men women and children have the FSA killed?
realweirdo wrote: » One FSA nutter was captured on camera acting up for the camera. His actions were immiediately condemned by the FSA commanders who said he was wanted dead or alive. Did he kill 1400 people including 400 children in cold blood in a few minutes? Which is the bigger crime here? Be honest. A guy pretending to eat a dead soldiers heart or Assad killing 1400 people in a few minutes?
renegademaster wrote: » does it not worry you that not one person, including "independents", not one of them have at least acknowledged the fact it might or might not have been the rebels, some of whom have been videod eating the organs of a syrian army captured snd killed!! anybody only speaking about Assad or the Syrian army is not being truthful and honest in their appraisals of the sisuation over there since the Americans and their partners started stirring the **** over there over 2 years ago!! jebus wept!!
dublinbhoy88 wrote: » Where these chemical weapons experts at the scene of the explosion,otherwise they couldn't know
realweirdo wrote: » Every chemical weapons expert I have heard talking about this, most of them independent of governments, have stated they believe Assad was responsible. Now can you please state your chemical weapons qualifications? Otherwise you'll understand why I will believe them before I believe you.
Rascasse wrote: » In Syria his military did, yes.
dublinbhoy88 wrote: » And assad did..right?
Rascasse wrote: » The US did not use chemical weapons in Fallujah
dublinbhoy88 wrote: » what about U.S. using chemicals in Fallujah?
realweirdo wrote: » I wouldn't call it saturating the media so much as trying to convince the American people of the need to confront users of chemical weapons. The American people range from the hardcore isolationists in all parties and factions who are opposed to anything which smells like intervention any where...they were against intervention in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq, Libya...Their ancestors were against intervention in WW1 and when Hitler was gassing the Jews they were against intervention then too...what happened in Europe with Hitler was none of American's business...the more Hitler killed, the less of America's business it was. It was only when attacked by Japan that America reluctantly dropped its isolationists stance and even then there were people opposed to getting involved in the war. Aside from that, the ordinary man or woman on the street in America is reactionary and would struggle to point out Syria on the map. They are like children, they have to be stepped through everything, because their instinct is isolationist in all circumstances.
dublinbhoy88 wrote: » Well some eejits will fall for it in fairness
bumper234 wrote: » For the record i do believe it was Syrian government troops who fired the chemical weapons weather they had official backing or not is another thing. As for propaganda i think you will find the American propaganda machine is working 24/7 saturating the American people with one sided facts and arguments to suit the government position of attacking Syria.
czx wrote: » bmaxi wrote: » Can't you read? I can, so cryptic comment is the extent of it. Just needed to be sure.
bmaxi wrote: » Can't you read?
czx wrote: » I thought you were against bombing?
dublinbhoy88 wrote: » This would be the equivalent of Russia bombing Israel for their tratment of the Palestinians,they would be as justified In doing so
realweirdo wrote: » No propaganda, absolutely not...Its the Russians and Iranians who in the main do the propaganda.
czx wrote: » bahahahahahaha
dublinbhoy88 wrote: » you are wasting your time trying to bluff the irish people
realweirdo wrote: » No propaganda, absolutely not...Its the Russians and Iranians who in the main do the propaganda. You are clearly not too famliliar with what happened in the Damascus attack and are so blinded by anti americanism that I doubt you care too much. The attack happened in conjunction with a major push by Assad forces on the area that was targeted..no-one doubts that, even the Assad government have admitted they attacked the area. Secondly, the UN inspectors were prevented by the Assad regime for days from getting to the site while Assad forces relentlessly bombed and shelled the site of the attack. For the last time, you would think Assad forces would stop shelling the area and be eager to get the UN Inspectors to the site immediately, if they were certain it was the rebels who carried it out. The rebels do not have the capability to deliver the kinds of shells that were delivered and in such numbers, no-one seriously disputes that except for the anti american brigade. MSF have verified there was a large scale attack in the area using neuro toxin agents - again you can't argue MSF are pro war. A recently defected Assad chemical weapons expert has said Assad used chemical weapons in Aleppo in an attack blamed on rebels by the anti american brigade. A brave admission by the defector seeing as it now opens him to a possible war crimes trial and/or retribution from FSA elements. This kind of blows a big hole in the theory that the FSA have carried out any chemical weapons attacks..so far all chemical weapons attacks have been carried out by Assad from the dropping of napalm and phosperous to the use of sarin on a massive scale in Damascus against civilians. The UN will no doubt verify the use of chemical weapons in time, but of course the Russians have said they aren't allowed say which side they came from, another obstructionist move from the Russians - you would think if the Russians really believed the FSA carried out the attack, they would be keen to have it proved to the world. It all points to one conclusion, Assad and Assad alone carried out this attack. No-one seriously doubts that...except the anti american brigade of course who don't seriously doubt it either by the way.
dublinbhoy88 wrote: » No proof then just propaganda?