madness98 wrote: » I guess so. I'm almost sure I heard him say they were built into the hardware unless though I could be wrong. You touched on another thing that I was wondering about as well, and that is whether or not some time into the XBone's lifespan they will reintroduce these changes via software updates.
thegame983 wrote: » I think with the release of a new console you/ me/ all of us, need to drop any sense of fanboyism that we may have. You need to evaluate your options and make the best choice for you, not the best best choice for the company that produced your last generation console. I went from Megadrive -> Saturn -> N64 -> Dreamcast -> PS2 -> XBOX -> XBOX360 & PS3 -> Gaming PC As you can see I had a small infinity for Sega consoles in the early days but after they flopped I truely couldn't care which company I bought from just which gave me the best product. I'm gonna hold off until next year (maybe around the release of Titanfall?) and make a descision based on what has happened in the preceding months. If you feel that Microsoft has let you down then vote with your wallet and don't buy their products, but don't think Sony are the second coming of Jesus they're just playing nice cause they got their ass handed to them (in the US at least) in the last generation, but for the love of god don't just blindly buy a console because your a fan of a company. I did that with the Sega saturn/ Dreamcast. Great consoles but a year or 2 later they didn't exist anymore.
gizmo wrote: » Funny that you mention that actually, some news on that as of this morning. Microsoft still hopes for Xbox One digital game trading The problem, as highlighted in the article, is that these approaches need a heavy (but smart) application of DRM. Unless that's relatively well hidden (see: Steam), however, then MS are going to get an unholy amount of flack about it, especially if they require a mandatory internet connection regardless of whether you use the feature. I can certainly see said functionality coming back at some stage alright but definitely not for awhile.
CatInABox wrote: » Technically, in that article, they are talking about "digital" games only, i.e. games that you buy without a physical disk. It's a distinction that's important, as it means that any games that you buy digitally could, at some stage in the future, have this system applied to it. If it only applies to digital games, then there really is no downside to it, as it's actually enabling you to trade digital games, something that no other system has allowed before. As you say, applying the sort of DRM required to a physical copy of the game results in far too much "emotional" hassle for gamers currently. What I think will happen is this: Microsoft bring out a "Digital Marketplace" where you can sell your digital games to other users. Instead of Gamestop or Game getting a cut, the publishers/developers will take a cut of this. Once up and running, most people will find that it is an acceptable compromise. In a few years, Microsoft will release a cheaper version of the Xbox One without a disk drive, an all digital console. I fully expect Sony to do something similar. There is too much money in cutting out the middle man.
2Mad2BeMad wrote: » Ireland and quite alot of other countrys wouldnt be ready for full digital. As internet is still only basic in most parts of ireland and other countrys. Hell i live in Dublin near the city and the best internet i can get is 8mb which would be horrid for 20+gb downloads. I agree though digitial is the way of the future, but really depends how far in the future, maybe next next gen?
elfy4eva wrote: » I've made my decision on how I'll choose which I go for, I'm going to wait a few months after their release and see what sort of bundles/deals become available (neither have launch titles that I'm particularly interested in and when I buy a new console i'd ideally like to get 2-3 games with it). Also will be able to review if there are any early hardware issues with either of them.
Richard Dower wrote: » I'll buy the best console that fulfills my needs, i like the idea of an all-in-one entertainment system. Streaming, VOD, premium content etc., tv....great!
madness98 wrote: » If I do go next gen it wont be for at least 9 months or so after release so I can sum up the consoles and take into account any rumoured updates. This is a bit off topic as we are discussing consoles here but if you like all that, why not just go pc?
Richard Dower wrote: » Costs too much, to build high end....i'd splash down 650 on the grapgics card alone, then a high end CPU, SSD's etc. I need about 3 grand to build what i want.....after i got sick the money dried up so i have to think small
madness98 wrote: » Aaah that is unfortunate. I do have a friend in a similar situation. He is building a high end rig but buying one part at a time as he can only afford it this way. He has been smart though and is leaving the most expensive components to the bottom of the list so that by the time he comes round to them they should be a bit cheaper anyhow.
ShadowHearth wrote: » I love how pc gaming haters said " you need a 1000eu build to play games, pc gaming is way too expensive", now it is " you need a 3000eu build to play games, pc gaming is way to expensive"... :pac: I wonder, does it have something to do with Console prices being quite steep this gen when you include online service bill and 2-3 times more expensive games... :pac:
Deleted User wrote: » So consoles........ what are people choosing - Xbox One or PS4?
Richard Dower wrote: » You dont *need* a 3k PC to play games, you can buy an APU for 200 quid that'll handle any game at medium settings. For me personally i would only build high end....when i had money i constantly swapped out to the latest and greatest. You could PC game for 500 quid no problem
thegame983 wrote: » If you feel that Microsoft has let you down then vote with your wallet and don't buy their products, but don't think Sony are the second coming of Jesus they're just playing nice cause they got their ass handed to them (in the US at least) in the last generation
thegame983 wrote: » Back to consoles!!
C14N wrote: » MS sold 44m 360s in the US vs Sony selling 27m PS3s. They clearly one (in just that territory) but it's not really having their asses handed to them. .
ShadowHearth wrote: » I wount go in to this topic again, it will derail off topic once again with completely no "help" to any party. Just I would like to ask you politely to stop talking about PC gaming, because you have no clue about it. You just create more myths and wrong ways of approaching PC gaming.
Richard Dower wrote: » Dude...i was building Pcs when you were playing with Lego :rolleyes:
Richard Dower wrote: » MS copying the PS4 yet again....lost count now how many PS4 features MS have copied:http://ie.ign.com/articles/2013/09/05/xbox-one-could-offer-backwards-compatibility-through-the-cloud
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