Ray Palmer wrote: » That is a really strange comment to me. I have yet to meet a graduate who actually had some specialist knowledge due to their recent education. Graduates tend to be completely clueless and arrogant. I have never seen a recent graduate put in charge of anything.
Kaiser2000 wrote: » ...I think with IT you hit a wall after a certain point where you need to specialise and keep investing thousands per year into qualifications so you can keep current with the latest fresh crop of graduates who have them already.. and who can do the job for a lot less (no mortgage, kids or cars to worry about.. unlike you!), or you can move into management (which is what I did)...
danish pasterys wrote: » Im 24 the taught of 3 more unemployed years is hard enough
CruelCoin wrote: » He was talking specifically about IT. Very true in that industry that constant upskilling is now considered par for the course in just keeping your job, let alone advancing it.
Ray Palmer wrote: » So was I and I don't believe it and I have been working in IT for 18 years in a technical field as a contractor for that last 8 years. Colleges are always behind in technology
jimgoose wrote: » Aye. Lot of quiche-eaters about these days as well.
Ray Palmer wrote: » I have no idea what that mean
danish pasterys wrote: » Is a BA ordinary degree any use at all ?
jimgoose wrote: » Here, upskill:http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.htmlhttp://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/mel.html
Ray Palmer wrote: » Still doesn't seem relevant
Iwasfrozen wrote: » Is a BA degree useful? Yes because it gets you access to post-graduate degrees.
harney wrote: » You don't need a BA or a BSc to take and MSc.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » But it helps.
Ray Palmer wrote: » Why and how?
bbk wrote: » I can speak for master of science courses here. A research based MSc will not prepare you for the quality and methodology of research required. For the benefit of students, a taught masters may include a research module (especially for mature students) but that is still just 12 odd weeks with one or two research based projects to your name. Soon after, you will be required to undertake semi-novel and independent research in to an area of your choosing. Your willingness to learn how to research properly is down to the individual, but as someone who enjoyed doing it I only got the real hang of it when I got into my MSC and realised just how intense it was going to be.
[Deleted User] wrote: » OP, you mentioned that you do Business and IT. Have they taught you Ruby on Rails? Seriously, pick this up if you haven't! Workplaces are seemingly going bananas for people that can do it.
doovdela wrote: » A BA can open a lot of doors and open to opportunities jobs, going abroad and work in many areas and postgrad study. You can learn a lot have examples of projects to go on etc. if you can at all get part time work and do open source projects keep you in the loop jobs wise and keep practising code and be up to date with technology and code on the side. Make yourself stand out and extra curricular activities or join a club or society be important too. Maybe try voluntary work. Be an all rounder gain transferable critical thinking business I.T and I.S skills can add a lot to your career bow. Not just technical and competency skills and having qualities and personality suited. Ability to be creative, solve problems, communication and interpersonal skills and work on your own and in a team is key I've done a BA similar to a Business and I.T course added to to postgrad in computing has given me a chance to apply to wide range of jobs and offers of interviews. No job offer yet since I was last in college mostly freelance stuff.. But did have a job after my B.A honours degree got some I.T work experience then and back to college to do computing hdip but very little work since haven't got full time or permanent work. Have since been doing online programming course to brush up on code and learn JavaScript. Also applied to a springboard course relevant to my degree some new subjects but some stuff i covered before but to get back in touch and has work placement. I probably plan to do a masters business or information systems related. What I've done since my B.A honours degree has just filled employment history gap on cv nothing more.
Grayson wrote: » It depends on the subjects. I have a friend who did philosophy and english. 5 years later he's waiting tables. I was talking to a guy working in a coffee shop last week. He's got a degree in journalism. I did philosophy and maths. i know people in my company who are earning quite a bit (€40k+) in starter positions with just a degree in maths. I'm starting a masters in the next month. It's a 1 year mastrs in management. Added to the experience i already have and the maths i should be able to get a better job then the one I'm in now. What your BA was in is only part of it. What you do with it is what matters. A regular BA is not always enough because they subjects might not be applicable to real life. there are however any number of postgraduate courses that will definitely get you a job. And you can do a lot of them whilst working part time or even full time. My advice though is to look at all the options and pick something you'd enjoy. You'll be more likely to get and job and progress if you can demonstrate a good aptitude and genuine enthusiasm.
dpp v mcgee wrote: » a masters is a great idea. it should guarantee you an internship on job bridge.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » Don't diss job bridge out of hand. It depends on the sector. Waiting tables on a job bridge scheme isn't very useful but if you're an accountant earning experience before you seek your charter it could be a major asset. I'm going on to be an actuary and I might take a job bridge scheme after I finish my masters so I can fill out my c.v.
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