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How will you choose between MS & Sony's new consoles?

Josey Wales

If Sony and Microsoft release both of their new machines later this year how will you decided which machine to get? For the sake of discussion lets just say that they will be released this year.

Will it be brand loyalty? You've bought into the MS Live eco system or PSN and don't want to switch? Will it be the hardware specs of the machine or the launch line up of games? Will it be backwards compatibility? Price?

For me right now I have no idea which I would choose. In this current generation I bought all three (Wii, PS3, 360). I don't think brand loyalty will be a factor for me. In the end I will probably end up with both so I will just have to decide which one first. One important factor will be what Naughty Dog has lined up for the PS4 (or whatever they call it).

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Retr0gamer

Grayditch wrote: »

Has someone been checking someone's trophies? PSN Lurkin'.

Must have been, but then my PS3 isn't online much and it only syncs trophy's when online so not exactly an accurate way to judge. I can assure you I played KZ2 to completion and had to endure one of the worst final bosses in FPS history

Played most of KZ3 co-op in a friends.

Varik

Retr0gamer wrote: »

What?

You said yourself you didn't play the MP and only played SP, you might as well have said they were both some of the dullest tutorials you've ever played.

The SP barely matters in any FPS, most live by just their MP and with things like Battlelog and other game equivalents most people don't even play the SP anymore and it's becoming an unwanted part of the game.

Retr0gamer

Well I don't like online multiplayer games. I played them loads about 10 years ago but they don't interest me anymore. I feel they are a total waste of time. Therefore for me I'm only judging on the single player content because that's all I like.

Grayditch

Yeah, I'd happily have a 4 hour run and gun SP, if they made the MP addictive and tactical.

Or a single player as good as Bioshock or Dishonoured.

Probably won't get both!

Varik

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Well I don't like online multiplayer games. I played them loads about 10 years ago but they don't interest me anymore. I feel they are a total waste of time. Therefore for me I'm only judging on the single player content because that's all I like.

Judging a game after a few hours or levels is fine, if it can't hold you that long then it has issues but ignoring the main aspect of a game and then writing it off is not.

Fair enough you don't like the MP but the SP in most FPS is now an afterthought, I gave up on the SP on BF3 and only finished it recently and I don't know about you but I can only think of 1/2 good SP fps in the last few years; Far cry 3, (Borderlands too maybe but it's more FP RPG), Bioshock.

sarumite

Varik wrote: »

Judging a game after a few hours or levels is fine, if it can't hold you that long then it has issues but ignoring the main aspect of a game and then writing it off is not.

Fair enough you don't like the MP but the SP in most FPS is now an afterthought, I gave up on the SP on BF3 and only finished it recently and I don't know about you but I can only think of 1/2 good SP fps in the last few years; Far cry 3 (Borderlands too maybe but it's more FP RPG).

I have given up on the BF3 sp as well, is it worth finishing?

RasTa

I judge single player games on the last of us these days.

Retr0gamer

Well again it's my opinion and it's only judging the single player portion, I never said otherwise. Maybe multiplayer is better but I've interest in it. My experience is just the single player which I found to be terrible.

I never said or pretended otherwise.

Varik

sarumite wrote: »

I have given up on the BF3 sp as well, is it worth finishing?

No, I'm just doing it as I've put a lot of time into the game in MP and might as well Platinum the thing. Only have the stupid perfect run in the jet (which you have to play from the start each time) and the co-op which barely work.

sarumite

Varik wrote: »

No, I'm just doing it as I've put a lot of time into the game in MP and might as well Platinum the thing. Only have the stupid perfect run in the jet (which you have to play from the start each time) and the co-op which barely work.

Cool, thats a game I can miss then. I am not a trophy hunter and I have way too many good games in my backlog to worry about playing a bad one. The MP is enough for me.

ShadowHearth

RasTa wrote: »

I judge single player games on the last of us these days.

I judged the Last of us by its multiplayer. Game was shiet! :pac:

gizmo

Varik wrote: »

The SP barely matters in any FPS, most live by just their MP and with things like Battlelog and other game equivalents most people don't even play the SP anymore and it's becoming an unwanted part of the game.

Completely disagree with this. Battlefield 3 isn't really a valid example of this as it was the first game in the main series to attempt a proper single player campaign in an attempt to compete with Call of Duty, itself a game whose SP has been dramatically shortened since COD4 and its meteoric rise to popularity, primarily due to its multiplayer.

Killzone was also a series which was based on a strong single player campaign so attempting to dismiss criticism based on the relatively weak campaigns in KZ2 and KZ3 just because their MP, a mode which not everyone wants to play, has gotten better is ludicrous. Same would go for Resistance while we're on the subject of the PS3. Hell, even Halo, a series which became popular because of its MP still has a relatively meaty SP campaign.

As for other SP-focused FPS titles, there was FarCry and Bioshock as you mentioned, then the Metro series, Hard Reset, STALKER series, Serious Sam 3, Bulletstorm, Singularity, Crysis, R6: Vegas, FEAR 2/3 and Rise of the Triad.

C14N

CatInABox wrote: »

Still, I have hope that two years on the back foot will cause Microsoft to pull out all the stops, bag a few more exclusives. Again, competition is good!

Yeah hopefully, it worked that way last time for Sony at least.

Grumpypants wrote: »

Microsoft need to close the 100 euro difference be that with a free game and free Xbox live sub.

We are getting fifa not that I want it, the US will prob get more tv stuff. Subscriptions etc. To close the gap.

Or possibly something like Madden since they've already got an EA Sports deal.

Varik wrote: »

The SP barely matters in any FPS, most live by just their MP and with things like Battlelog and other game equivalents most people don't even play the SP anymore and it's becoming an unwanted part of the game.

I agree with Retro, I don't like playing the multiplayer in most games either. If they're going to go and put in a full single player campaign with a story and full levels and such, then it's perfectly valid to judge it on it's campaign. In the likes of Killzone and Battlefield 3, there was clearly a lot of time and money put into the single player modes and they make up a complete game by themselves.

Xenji

Sony has confirmed that the PlayStation 4 does voice recognition through the new PlayStation Camera.

A Sony Computer Entertainment Europe spokesperson told Eurogamer: "We can confirm that PS Camera does allow voice recognition. We will share more details on this shortly."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-09-02-sony-confirms-playstation-camera-does-voice-recognition

Xenji

Fifa 14 confirmed as being only free with Day One editions, and will be a digital copy.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/09/02/xbox-ones-free-fifa-14-for-day-one-edition-consoles-only/

Otacon

Xenji wrote: »

Fifa 14 confirmed as being only free with Day One editions, and will be a digital copy.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/09/02/xbox-ones-free-fifa-14-for-day-one-edition-consoles-only/

TBH I assumed this was the case. I wonder if they will announce official bundles soon.

Xenji

Otacon wrote: »

TBH I assumed this was the case. I wonder if they will announce official bundles soon.

I did as well, but it looks like a lot of people did not, they are getting some abuse on twitter about it.

2Mad2BeMad

Xenji wrote: »

I did as well, but it looks like a lot of people did not, they are getting some abuse on twitter about it.

they seemed quite clear about it specialy when they said (while stocks last)

Xenji

2Mad2BeMad wrote: »

they seemed quite clear about it specialy when they said (while stocks last)

They were telling people on their offical twitter since the announcement it would be for all pre-orders not just the Day One Edition.

thegame983

Xenji wrote: »

They were telling people on their offical twitter since the announcement it would be for all pre-orders not just the Day One Edition.

ouch. I presumed it would be with all pre orders. Yeah I just tested it out on amazon. Normal edition - no fifa. day one edition - Fifa (and it's sold out)

In fairness how can you have a limited supply of a digital product?

gizmo

thegame983 wrote: »

ouch. I presumed it would be with all pre orders. Yeah I just tested it out on amazon. Normal edition - no fifa. day one edition - Fifa (and it's sold out)

In fairness how can you have a limited supply of a digital product?

Because you only bought a limited number of keys from the publisher of said digital product?

Xenji

thegame983 wrote: »

ouch. I presumed it would be with all pre orders. Yeah I just tested it out on amazon. Normal edition - no fifa. day one edition - Fifa (and it's sold out)

In fairness how can you have a limited supply of a digital product?

Depends on what sort of a deal Microsoft and EA came up with, Microsoft may have just bought a limited number of the game off of EA, doubt EA would be doing this if it meant they would be losing money.

2Mad2BeMad

Xenji wrote: »

They were telling people on their offical twitter since the announcement it would be for all pre-orders not just the Day One Edition.

Ive learnt from years ago not to take anything to word from their "Offical" Twitter account.
like when they announced games on demand
their offical twitter account and their OXM announced that Assassins creed 2 and Halo3 where the first games of the month to come free. And no they didnt say free during the programme, they actually said Free first month. It was only at the presentation of e3 when MS announced "during the programme"

They dont communicate enough with the head offices or Marketing department. or vice-versa

Their twitter account basicly just writes up stuff that has been said from MS without actually clarifying anything.

Richard Dower

is anyone getting the ps4 camera or other official accessories?

I am deffo getting the camera, might pick up the charging station....20 quid for a plastic stand?....meh!

Grayditch

Xenji wrote: »

Fifa 14 confirmed as being only free with Day One editions, and will be a digital copy.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/09/02/xbox-ones-free-fifa-14-for-day-one-edition-consoles-only/

I can see that disappointing and annoying some people.

thegame983

Grayditch wrote: »

I can see that disappointing and annoying some people.

Agreed. I'll admit that I didn't read the fine print but Microsoft implied that ALL xbox1 would come with Fifa. Added to that that's what the mainstream media reported...and that's the most important thing. Will the mainstream media redact this statment. Probably not.

Grayditch

I actually saw a woman in Gamestop booking an Xbox One and the girl told her she may not get one on launch day, but she might get one before Christmas. The kid with her was wearing a football jersey and I'm totally guessing here, but I think that woman is going to think she's getting FIFA for free.

Even if not, I think that will happen a lot, I just hope that people aren't choosing a system based on something they don't end up with. There's been a lot of mixed messages from Microsoft.

If Sony started this nonsense I'd be shaking my head at them too, but so far they've played fairly with people.

ShadowHearth

If I would be going with Xbox one, I would have traded in fifa same moment I pick up Xbox one, but now they are not even giving physical copy of it, so all people who don't care about fifa will be stuck with nothing. Fifa is Avery specific game genre and it is love or hate with it.

Anyway, 3 months to go

bollox. I want my next gen 720p machine now

thegame983

Again it's their messenging. I was legitimally excited by this Fifa bundle but its just a smokescreen for a selct few.

Presumably the reason of the bundle is to create price parity with the PS4 without having to officially announce a price drop. They must backtrack on this and give it to everyone?

gizmo

ShadowHearth wrote: »

If I would be going with Xbox one, I would have traded in fifa same moment I pick up Xbox one, but now they are not even giving physical copy of it, so all people who don't care about fifa will be stuck with nothing. Fifa is Avery specific game genre and it is love or hate with it.

They can still sell it on adverts or eBay in fairness.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Anyway, 3 months to go bollox. I want my next gen 720p machine now

Come on ShadowHearth, you're better than that.