mike65 wrote: » Is why people got on his back, nothing else.
kingshankly wrote: » It's amazing the way people find a way to bring rafa in to a conversation
9. Gives away THAT free kick with a silly high foot
djPSB wrote: » Henderson for me is the main one that needs to be improved on. He just doesn't add enough in an attacking sense. Granted on another day, with a bit of luck he could have had a hat trick. There was one instance though, where he had to score and he just wasn't clinical enough. When he cut inside onto his left, had only Begovic to beat and he missed. It's crucial that we score them chances. His work rate throughout the game was top class but I'm not sure that alone can warrant a first team place. All the other attacking options look like they've goals in them. Sturridge, Aspas, Coutinho, and Suarez when he returns. Willian, whose signature seems imminent, will add a extra dimension. Sterling and Ibe are nice options late on in the game. Borini hasn't hit the ground running just yet. Realistically, for all our dominance yesterday, we could have lost that game. Stoke had 4 excellent chances, Huth's effort off the bar, the one Lucas cleared off the line, and the penalty. And Walters shot that Mignolet excellently saved. We simply have to increase our goals to shots ratio above yesterday's 4%.
jethro081 wrote: » I read alan hansons book, and he devotes a piece of it to the above attitude, basically saying people invariably ignore the importance of a centre half's favourite side. Saying that it really makes a difference to the defender which side he is asked to play, and that it can, for a lot of players be as significant as the difference between a winger playing on the right, or the left. A good example of this would be skrtel, and how he suffered when asked to play the left sided cb role beside carra in the past. I don't think it's just a case of "you're a centre back, so the job's the same on the left as the right". Centre halves themselves seem to argue that it makes quite a bit of difference, so it makes sense that the club would be less interested in a left sided centre back, considering the fact that agger has that spot nailed down.
Raif Severance wrote: » Like I've said, AFAIK Sakho hasn't played as RCB, and would you have Start him ahead of Toure? I haven't seen much of Sakho since I only watch PSG in CL Comps and he rarely Features there. But I've seen plenty of Toure for us. And so far, I've yet to see Toure make any Mistakes in every Game he has played for us. Granted most of them were against Meager Oppositions, but I'm comfortable in Starting him ahead of Sakho in the RCB slot. To me, Sakho and Toure Partnership would make more sense. Since I see Agger as the Weak Link in our Defense, but that's my opinion.
5live wrote: » Not having a go at you here but what is the difficulty in playing 2 LCBs? Would there be as much difficulty in the concept if both players were RCBs, ie, if Agger and Sakho were both right footed? With only 10% of the population lefties(iirc) then there are relatively fewer good LCBs out there so the majority of pairings would be 2 RCBs so having a pair of defenders with the same strong side is relatively common but much less so for lefties. I cant ever remember having a conversation about CBs where there was a problem identified with one partner being right footed only that he wasnt good enough
djPSB wrote: » Luke Shaw for Southampton looks like he's going to turn out to be an excellent attacking left back. Would love to see him end up at Liverpool.
Luckycharms_74 wrote: » Full match is here if you want to watch it http://www.footballorgin.com/2013/08/premier-league-2013-2014-liverpool-v_18.html Edit: it's a site to bookmark for all full match replays & highlights
Raif Severance wrote: » There are only 3 CBs that we've definitely Inquired, that's Papa, Zouma and Sakho. It's understandable why we haven't renewed our Interest on Papa, due to his Injuries. It's hard to part with the kind of money Schalke is asking, when there are still so many Question Marks on Papa. Zouma is a Great Prospect but is still too Raw. Played only 18 Matches as Saint-Étienne's 3rd-Choice CB. So in a sense, he's a bit like our very own Wisdom. Would it make sense to Buy another Prospect, when we already have one? And would anyone here be comfortable Starting him? So lastly, we've come to Sakho. Unlike the other 2 which are RCBs, Sakho is a LCB, that's Agger's Position. And AFAIK, he hasn't played as RCB. The only way I think we'll make this Deal is if it's Cheap, or if the ITK's Rumblings are True, and it's Loan with an Option to Buy. Now, if we did buy Sakho, where would you Play him? Would you put 2 Left-sided CBs as your Defensive Pairing in Agger and Sakho? Or would you Bench our VC, in Favor of a Sakho-Toure Partnership?
djPSB wrote: » Henderson for me is the main one that needs to be improved on. He just doesn't add enough in an attacking sense. Granted on another day, with a bit of luck he could have had a hat trick. There was one instance though, where he had to score and he just wasn't clinical enough. When he cut inside onto his left, had only Begovic to beat and he missed. It's crucial that we score them chances. His work rate throughout the game was top class but I'm sure that alone can warrant a first team place. All the other attacking options look like they've goals in them. Sturridge, Aspas, Coutinho, and Suarez when he returns. Willian, whose signature seems imminent, will add a extra dimension. Sterling and Ibe are nice options late on in the game. Borini hasn't hit the ground running just yet. Realistically, for all our dominance yesterday, we could have lost that game. Stoke had 3 excellent chances, Huth's effort off the bar, the one Lucas cleared off the line, and the penalty. And Walters shot that Mignolet excellently saved. We simply have to increase our goals to shots ratio above yesterday's 4%.
5live wrote: » Just watched Motd last night and havent seen the full match yet but it stood out when he went for the ball. He wanted it more than any other player and generally got it too. If only that could be instilled in the rest of the defence. It will hopefully rub off on Wisdom though as with two ball-winning centre halves my bloodpressure would drop a few notches when defending set-pieces. But i will wait a few games before thinking our problems at CB are over for a while. We still need a good backup, preferrably young, who can fill in for a few games when injuries/fitness/form drops off.
Dickerty wrote: » I worry about Coutinho staying as we'll, but if we can get back where we belong, top 4 or higher, then let's hope only a Barca or Real could attract him. But if he keeps if he keeps it up, Barca would actually be a good fit!
rarnes1 wrote: » If he's moved over to the middle full time him and Suarez could be devastating together
Charlie19 wrote: » Delighted with the result and happy enough with the team performance but there was still a few moments that frustrated the life out of me. Aspas was a bit hit and miss, Sturridge has the odd winge when decisions didn't go his way and Ray Stubbs is gradually becoming the worst pundit/presenter going. Couthinio, Toure, Lucas, Henderson were brilliant and Johnson probably had his best game I've seen for some time. Not forgetting Simon, that double save at the end should do him the world of good. Think the criticism Sterling got in here was very harsh, the lad is only 18 ffs and only had 20 minutes or so.
slingerz wrote: » At least Kolo looks to attack the corners anyway another couple like him would help!! Will Liverpool ever hurry on and just sign Willian at this stage
Boom_Bap wrote: » Yep, I'm in total agreement on that, Papa will have til January now to get his fitness back up and to show that he's back to where he was pre injury.
audman wrote: » Bold, I know, naughty perhaps, but I adventorously 'loaned' the bookie a rather cheeky €100 after the game today in quiet but confident hope of making all of it back with a monsterous profit when we win the league. PM me or thank this post for a share of the profits/a few pints on me come title-decider day.
Raif Severance wrote: » One of the Reasons why I think will wait and see how both Zouma and Papa develops before making any further Bids for them. With Skrtel Injured, I don't think we can move him this Transfer Window. So I'm thinking, January will be the Time where will Sign another CB.
Gmol wrote: » Chris Morgan has started following Willian on Twitter now. Reckon its getting close now.
Boom_Bap wrote: » For someone who has been seemingly signed as a old head with experience for backup, I think he is the reason why interest in other centre halves has disappeared. He's basically come in and got his place in the starting 11 nailed on. I love the way he attacks every ball at corners, something we have missed. Great performance all round yesterday. On another day Aspas would have had the game ball. Lucas back to himself, Enrique surprised me....all the talk of another person joining in his position seems to have done the job. Some credit the Mark Hughes and Stoke, some of their passing and holding on to possession was glorious to watch as opposed to the Pulis Stoke. That style of football will really benefit the likes of Whelan, Wilson and Walters (The WWW) for the national team.
