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Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

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Gringo180

People saying that Gustavo would be back up are complete bonkers, he would be one of the first names on the team sheet, as much as I love Arteta he is a step above him, and another step uo from Ramsey. Yet again we have missed out on strengthening our starting 11 for not paying tge extra few quid on his wages. JOKERS!!

bad2dabone

cathalio11 wrote: »

114k a week for someone who isn't guaranteed to take Arteta's place. It just gives everyone at the club, who is on less, more of a reason to demand more.

well yeah i agree with this.

114k gbp a week is a big wage, its a star players wage.

he was on 60k euro at bayern I heard, so he's more than doubled his wages to go a lower placed bundesliga team.

I won't be going into Meltdown over losing this one.

Soups123

Its fcuking mental how the summer has gone.

I love the first game of the season, new kit, new players and that feeling of uncertainty as we sit on a par with everyone else.

It's going to be weird kicking off the season without a single new player in the squad, that's a large shine off it for me.

If we fail to win the pressure both fan and media is going to consume the club

cathalio11

bad2dabone wrote: »

We could really do with a director of football. Look at the work Baldini has done for spurs so far.
Wenger has too much control, unfortunately. He should supply a list to a DOF and let the DOF get on with it.

Bring Joe Kinnear in.

cathalio11

Marty McFly wrote: »

Yes it would have but the fact of the manner is football has moved on we haven't. If we want to attract these quality players Wenger keeps banging on about we need to pay better wages.

Gazidis said we can now compete prove it

Yes, you're right but not for Luiz Gustavo.

In reply to another poster, I've seen him play only a small amount but I've seen many other more educated (than mine) people's opinions and he doesn't look like he would stand out at Arsenal at all.

114k a week for someone who isn't guaranteed to take Arteta's place. It just gives everyone at the club, who is on less, more of a reason to demand more.

bad2dabone

We could really do with a director of football. Look at the work Baldini has done for spurs so far.
Wenger has too much control, unfortunately. He should supply a list to a DOF and let the DOF get on with it.

everdead.ie

I'm actually kind of surprised by Arsenals transfer strategy.

They obviously won't spend over the odds for a player but then they spend the whole summer saying they have millions to spend.

Selling clubs are like we have a valuation we know you have told all and sundry you can afford it, we are sticking to it.

emergingstar

KEEP ALL THE MONEY

overpronator

Would really love it a journalist had the courage to take Wenger to task over his transfer policy in the press conference today, really ask him the difficult questions rather than just listen to him philosophise like a University lecturer. He needs to articulate his plans to the supporters that he seem to so blatantly disregard.

Im a huge Wenger fan but if we do sign Flamini (only speculation I know) then it makes a mockery of every season ticket holder and he need to explain himself.

EuropeanSon

Kirby wrote: »

I wouldn't have him as backup. A midfield three of Gustavo, Arteta and wilshere. Talk of him being backup is silly, even in a midfield as strong as yours.

Of course Arteta is out for a month so......still think it's good business letting him go for that little money? You wont find a better midfielder for less in this window.

I'd drop Arteta and Wilshere before Ramsay.

cson

Frisbee wrote: »

If a person in any other form of employment resided over three months of such complete ineptitude in the workplace they would be fire on the spot for negligence.

If I could thank that twice I would. Completely captures my feelings on the summer.

Alfred Borden

I'm going to stick my neck out, transfer deadline day, we will sign Khedira

emergingstar

I still think we will get the player we need

It's just a shame it's come to the sage where I will have to being my boots to te emeriates tomorrow

Alfred Borden

Wenger confirms that no-one else is going on loan, also says there wont be a "Trolly Dash" this year either.

emergingstar

Marty McFly wrote: »

According to Jamie sanderson we had a strong interest in Gustavo but wouldn't match Wolfsburg offer of 14 million and 114k a week.

What a fcuking joke..

I don't think he is an automatic starter so making him our highest paid player
I don't think so

Alfred Borden

jonny666 wrote: »

If we did really miss out on Gustavo. Who else could we have lined up? We desperately need backup to Arteta

Yohan Cabaye? Sami Khedira? Lars Bender?

Lets be honest, more then likely its the return of Flamini.

Kirby

Quazzie wrote: »

Considering many were saying he'd be back up to Arteta I certainly don't think he is worth becoming out best paid player. Giving him them wages automatically gives everyone else at the club a reason to ask for more too.

I wouldn't have him as backup. A midfield three of Gustavo, Arteta and wilshere. Talk of him being backup is silly, even in a midfield as strong as yours.

Of course Arteta is out for a month so......still think it's good business letting him go for that little money? You wont find a better midfielder for less in this window.

Marty McFly

cathalio11 wrote: »

Wouldn't that make him our most paid player or there abouts?

I wouldn't have taken him for those wages.

Yes it would have but the fact of the manner is football has moved on we haven't. If we want to attract these quality players Wenger keeps banging on about we need to pay better wages.

Gazidis said we can now compete prove it

Quazzie

Kirby wrote: »

You seen him play? He's worth it. That's what the market dictates these days. It's actually a rather low transfer fee. Probably because he wanted a move for first team football.

Considering many were saying he'd be back up to Arteta I certainly don't think he is worth becoming out best paid player. Giving him them wages automatically gives everyone else at the club a reason to ask for more too.

Pepe LeFrits

cathalio11 wrote: »

Wouldn't that make him our most paid player or there abouts?

I wouldn't have taken him for those wages.

That'd probably have worked out at less than 9m a year to add him, which isn't a whole lot considering we've cleared 25m+ a year off the wage bill and have an additional 40m+ in yearly income now…

Drexel

If we did really miss out on Gustavo. Who else could we have lined up? We desperately need backup to Arteta

Kirby

cathalio11 wrote: »

Wouldn't that make him our most paid player or there abouts?

I wouldn't have taken him for those wages.

You seen him play? He's worth it. That's what the market dictates these days. It's actually a rather low transfer fee. Probably because he wanted a move for first team football.

danlen

I think the problem is that AW (and the club) have worked so hard over the last number of years to actually get us into this financial position that they are almost scared to use the money in case they 'waste' it.

Obviously that's the complete wrong approach/attitude but nevertheless it seems like the only explanation to me.

Anyway, really interested to see how we do this weekend. Hitting the ground running would be such a confidence boost to the squad. Here's to hoping!

cathalio11

Marty McFly wrote: »

According to Jamie sanderson we had a strong interest in Gustavo but wouldn't match Wolfsburg offer of 14 million and 114k a week.

What a fcuking joke..

Wouldn't that make him our most paid player or there abouts?

I wouldn't have taken him for those wages.

Marty McFly

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Wolfsburg have confirmed it.

According to Jamie sanderson we had a strong interest in Gustavo but wouldn't match Wolfsburg offer of 14 million and 114k a week.

What a fcuking joke..

jester77

Saab Ed wrote: »

Spurs fan in peace lads.

What is the gig with Wenger not spending the money. Ye have pots of it, Ye have the pedigree for any quality of player in the world to join you and you're in London which is a major draw for most players. I can't figure it out.

Join the club....

Wenger does not like to overspend, he rates players at a certain amount and will not budge on this. Unfortunately there is always at least one more club somewhere that will top his limit as we have seen this Summer. Look at any of our recent buys, a lot were from clubs in distress or relegated and needed cash fast. When you look back it's amazing that we were able to get someone like Carzola.

Unless we get a few injuries before the window closes it doesn't look like anyone will come in, and to be honest, at that stage they would be panic buys and not quality buys.

Pepe LeFrits

Kirby wrote: »

They probably have a decent bit of money but not as much as the board claims so it's not like he has 100 million to splurge on whoever he wants. .

It is like that.

Kirby

Saab Ed wrote: »

Spurs fan in peace lads.

What is the gig with Wenger not spending the money. Ye have pots of it, Ye have the pedigree for any quality of player in the world to join you and you're in London which is a major draw for most players. I can't figure it out.

Nobody really knows. All we can do is speculate. It's probably a combination of a couple of different things.

They probably have a decent bit of money but not as much as the board claims so it's not like he has 100 million to splurge on whoever he wants. More like 40 and that's his lot so he might feel as if he has to be careful.

It might be a bit of ego as well. He is well known as a great spotter of talent and rightfully so but this probably plays on his mind a bit as he would be afraid of having an expensive "punt" on a player and having them flop.

Nobody notices when Chamakh flopped because he cost nothing. A Carroll or Torres style flop would damage his reputation and he probably puts a lot of stock in that. It's obvious he thinks a lot of himself. Might be a reason for his transfer paralysis.

Perhaps he's a bit too much a perfectionist? Constantly trying to find the perfect player for his system and always coming up short because they don't exist.....so he buys young players and tries to mold them which ofcourse hardly ever works.

Perhaps the fabled scouting system is really a myth? Maybe he isn't getting the help he needs? Maybe he's stuck in an bygone era when top quality players cost 10 million instead of 40?

Bottom line is, who knows. It's all guesswork. What we do know, is that Arsenal haven't signed a world class player in donkeys years.

bad2dabone

Neither can we Saab Ed.

it's bizarre.

Saab Ed

Spurs fan in peace lads.

What is the gig with Wenger not spending the money. Ye have pots of it, Ye have the pedigree for any quality of player in the world to join you and you're in London which is a major draw for most players. I can't figure it out.