gctest50 wrote: » I think its a great genuine example of shock of the price of things like this and all the necessary extras. Bit like when you order in a few escort girls and get a bit of a surprise that the champagne and charlie are not thrown in for free. And you'd have to have them like. Otherwise you'd be "would you like some yogurt girls ? fresh fromage? only got it this morning"
Jumboman wrote: » Consultants are not that much different to prostitutes who will screw you for every penny they can get.
dermabrasion wrote: » I have been following this thread out of curiosity. Along the way I came to the conclusion that this is total BS. There are things that don't add up or hold water in the story. It is a polemic or narrative to get people angry about excessive fees and screwing the little guy. There are probably elements that are true, but I don't think we have the whole story. I am a consultant. I don't have a private practice. but that's not the issue. I am a prostitute according to Jumboman. There are some similarities between me and hookers;I get up at night, any time anywhere, I just have to get up when the phone rings, and God knows what is going to meet me when I arrive at the hospital. Unlike hookers, I don't get to choose, I have to treat everyone. I have given my life to helping people, advancing my profession and to teach those who will come after me within the chaos of our health system. I get well paid, but I am certainly not wealthy. but I believe that I earn it. I get paid to stop people dying. That's my job, and it took me 20 very hard years to learn how to do it. I expect my post will upset some of who read it in ways that I cannot predict as I write. I apologise if I offend. I set to write this because I am sick to death of the crap that the media read out after being handed by a PR firm employed by the HSE. And the crap, which populates the media is NEVER critically questioned by the media. It however reponsible for much or the anger relfected in the posts written above. But as far as calling me or the doctors I work alongside "prostitutes", I felt I had to say something.
dermabrasion wrote: » I have been following this thread out of curiosity. Along the way I came to the conclusion that this is total BS. There are things that don't add up or hold water in the story.
I get well paid, but I am certainly not wealthy but I believe that I earn it.
But as far as calling me or the doctors I work alongside "prostitutes", I felt I had to say something.
OMD wrote: » How much have you paid out already in total? €900 to consultant, what else were you charged for?
Jumboman wrote: » 200 euro to see him first then 700 for the tests is what I have paid him so far.
Jumboman wrote: » So I made the whole thing up did I ? Are you for real ? your not wealthy ?? your in the top 1% of the population. How can someone who earns over 200k a year say their not wealthy ? If there is any "bs" its in your story when you make the claim your not wealthy. I neally fell off my chair when I read that comment. Gerry ryan also claimed that he didnt have much money either. Its amazing how some people who are rolling in money think their poor. I only made that comment because I felt I was getting ripped off. Do you think a consultant deserves 200euro to speak to me for 5mins on top of the 900euro I had already paid him ? in which he could'nt find the cause of the problem.
Astala wrote: » Your attitude is the kind that I despise.
For someone like you, scrounging off the state,
refusing to pay your bills, threatening to sue your GP because "I think he missed a big diagnosis", regarding them as overpaid "prostitutes"?
. In fact, if you show this little respect for doctors, no wonder your consultant is only spending "15 minutes" with you. Cop on and pay your bill.
Jumboman wrote: » I'd hate to have you as my doctor what sort of doctor despises a patient ? I think your in the wrong profession if you despise people who are going through the health system.
Astala wrote: » I stopped actively reading after this. I said it's your attitude which I despise, not you. However, it's interesting to note that you interpreted it as someone despising you. You think everyone is out to get you, don't you? Your post is juvenile, and as expected.
Jumboman wrote: » No I dont. But you seem to have a major chip on your shoulder. You also seem to believe that the medical profession are above reproach, priests use to enjoy that privilege and we all know what happened with them. I still think its highly inappropriate and unprofessional for a doctor to talk about despising a patients opinion. If I was dying would you give it a 100% to try and save me ? or just go through the motions. Some how I doubt it based on your comment about despising my opinion.
Jumboman wrote: » If I was dying would you give it a 100% to try and save me ? or just go through the motions
Astala wrote: » Listen, you have your answer-pay your bill and stop acting like a spoiled child.
Jack Kyle wrote: » I'm just the janitor, and I'd probably sneak in and pull the plug on you to be fair. People lambast so called high earners in Ireland. It's classic begrudery. In places like the US, high achievers are celebrated. These people have studied hard for maybe a decade and worked ungodly hours for f..k all dough. Meanwhile the scroungers crib and moan but get everything for free despite the fact that they're too stupid and/or lazy to provide for themselves.
Astala wrote: » This is incredible. Please re-read my post. It is your attitude towards doctors that I don't like-I didn't mention your opinion. However, I do think your opinion that consultants are ''prostitutes'' is disturbing.
Jumboman wrote: » Doctors in Ireland are paid for too much, in france you can see a doctor for 20euro here its 50-60.
Jumboman wrote: » Nobody is saying they shouldnt be paid well. But there is being paid well and then there is taking the piss. I come back to my original point do you think a consultant is right to charge 200euro to speak to me for 5 minutes after I already paid him to do the tests and he couldnt even find the problem. Doctors in Ireland are paid for too much, in france you can see a doctor for 20euro here its 50-60. When doctors cliam they are not wealthy it reminds me of padraig flynn on the late late show when he said he found it hard to live on IR100K after tax in 1999.
Hootanany wrote: » And why does one have to wait up to 2 years to see a Consultant,yet open your wallet & Hey presto they appear.
take everything wrote: » Yes doctors (shock horror) have feelings about patient's attitudes/opinions. If a patient had an opinion that I was akin to a prostitute, i'd find it hard not to have issue with that opinion. Doctors aren't robots. They have feelings like other human beings. It says nothing about how they care for their patients as you're so cynically implying.
