Paulegend wrote: » when barca players talked about cesc arsenal fans cried to high river and it was the same comments that arsenal players made. you cant have it both ways. its either tapping up or its not.
Paulegend wrote: » well considering he has featured in 2 finals for liverpool in his short stint at the club compared to the amount of finals arsenal have featured in that space of time. in fact if we went back to the last time arsenal won anything at all of note and comapred liverpools same amount of time im sure it would make for sobbering reading.
Paulegend wrote: » and they dream of winning the 4th place cup??
jonny666 wrote: » Champions league buddy!!
Mickeroo wrote: » What's Liverpool's main target for this season again?
Paulegend wrote: » wenger said that finishing 4th is more important than winning a cup. he is wrong.
bad2dabone wrote: » there's a big difference between the way the big 2 in spain tap players up and answering a question in a non-commital way when asked by a journalist. as for the 2 finals liverpool have been in, I think that the club would be better served with a higher league position. the 2 finals hardly saved King Kenny's job.
FearDark wrote: » The liverpool butt hurt in here is crazy. You are losing your best player and lashing out in the only way ye know how. By trying to convince everyone how big a club ye are. Ye are just another Nottingham Forest. Jog on.
gosplan wrote: » Paulegend wrote: » well considering he has featured in 2 finals for liverpool in his short stint at the club compared to the amount of finals arsenal have featured in that space of time. in fact if we went back to the last time arsenal won anything at all of note and comapred liverpools same amount of time im sure it would make for sobbering reading. Liverpool fans are guilty of ignoring the present and lauding the past while Arsenal fans are guilty of ignoring the present and lauding the future. Arsenal will be there or thereabouts for 4th this year. If Suarez thinks he's good enough and can offer 20+ league goals then Arsenal would be a good move for him because that would push them near the top. Of course Liverpool might have a good cup run but when players like Suarez talk of winning trophies, it's the league and the CL. If he did give us those goals then it would be a good move for everyone and worth 40-50 million. If you think that the addition of Suarez wouldn't bump a team from a consistant 3rd/4th spot to say second, then a price tag of 60 million is a joke. ill put it to you this way. lets say if arsenal bought suarez for 100 million(stupid cash. im not saying he is going for that) and arsenal went on to get 95 points in teh league. arsenal could finish second with that. but would teh 100 million be worth it?? i mean how do you put a price on it anyway. its all about what aresenal are willing to pay and what liverpool are happy to sell for if suarez doesnt go this summer he has 4 years left on his contract. he aint getting any cheaper next summer. especially if he went on to have another similar season followed by a world cup
Paulegend wrote: » well considering he has featured in 2 finals for liverpool in his short stint at the club compared to the amount of finals arsenal have featured in that space of time. in fact if we went back to the last time arsenal won anything at all of note and comapred liverpools same amount of time im sure it would make for sobbering reading. Liverpool fans are guilty of ignoring the present and lauding the past while Arsenal fans are guilty of ignoring the present and lauding the future. Arsenal will be there or thereabouts for 4th this year. If Suarez thinks he's good enough and can offer 20+ league goals then Arsenal would be a good move for him because that would push them near the top. Of course Liverpool might have a good cup run but when players like Suarez talk of winning trophies, it's the league and the CL. If he did give us those goals then it would be a good move for everyone and worth 40-50 million. If you think that the addition of Suarez wouldn't bump a team from a consistant 3rd/4th spot to say second, then a price tag of 60 million is a joke. ill put it to you this way. lets say if arsenal bought suarez for 100 million(stupid cash. im not saying he is going for that) and arsenal went on to get 95 points in teh league. arsenal could finish second with that. but would teh 100 million be worth it?? i mean how do you put a price on it anyway. its all about what aresenal are willing to pay and what liverpool are happy to sell for if suarez doesnt go this summer he has 4 years left on his contract. he aint getting any cheaper next summer. especially if he went on to have another similar season followed by a world cup
Liverpool fans are guilty of ignoring the present and lauding the past while Arsenal fans are guilty of ignoring the present and lauding the future. Arsenal will be there or thereabouts for 4th this year. If Suarez thinks he's good enough and can offer 20+ league goals then Arsenal would be a good move for him because that would push them near the top. Of course Liverpool might have a good cup run but when players like Suarez talk of winning trophies, it's the league and the CL. If he did give us those goals then it would be a good move for everyone and worth 40-50 million. If you think that the addition of Suarez wouldn't bump a team from a consistant 3rd/4th spot to say second, then a price tag of 60 million is a joke.
Paulegend wrote: » correction a qualifier with hope of champions league
bad2dabone wrote: » really? ask Wigan. Ask the board of any club. Ask John Henry what he'd rather.
AdamD wrote: » For the love of god its 'the' not 'teh'
Paulegend wrote: » yes and when they eventually(a billion years from now as it feels) get 4th they wont be hoping to finish 4th every season. they will want to make the next step. wenger said that finishing 4th is more important than winning a cup. he is wrong. im not saying that winning the micky mouse cup or getting to a final is teh best thing but its better than not competing at all
Paulegend wrote: » and for the record arsenal like all the top clubs have started to take the cups seriously. last season they fielded strong teams in the cups
jonny666 wrote: » You're really getting desperate!!
Soups123 wrote: » I'm not getting into any of this bull**** again today. It's just sad. Any transfer rumblings today in any of the rags or online fellow gunners?
Paulegend wrote: » and you come on to forums for what exactly??? rumours???
Pepe LeFrits wrote: » Ignore list is your friend, chaps. No transfer news today bar Arteta talking about how confident he is that there will be major additions to the squad before the window closes.
Mickeroo wrote: » Seems to be a lot of trials going on, midfielders in particular. Today it's a Moroccan named Alharbi El Jadeyaoui.
Pepe LeFrits wrote: »
Mickeroo wrote: » I would hope Arsenal are trying to make the step up this season by making a few signings in the next month or so. If they don't I'll be disgusted. They had to try and keep the club static over the last while because of the debts and such, that's why they've never tried to make the step up before now. Believe me, if you guys go ahead with a new stadium oyou'll know all about it. If we won a league cup I'd celebrate but I'd still take competing in the CL every year over it if I was given the choice. No we didn't. Take the Reading match for example. There were some first choice players in the squad but I don't think starting the likes of Gnabry, Arshavin, Djourou, Frimpong, Coquelin, Chamakh, Martinez and Miguel with Eisfield, Meade, Bellerin, Squillaci, Shea and Yennaris on the bench constitutes a particularly strong team.
ulinbac wrote: » accroding to Arsenal Mania, sourcing a pic from instagram:o, Bernard boarded a plane to London today!! Clutching at straws atm!!:(
Deleted User wrote: » Why are all these scousers here? You know there's a summer transfer thread, yeah? And I believe there's even a dedicated Suarez saga thread somewhere, gathering dust. Back to Arsenal. When are we playing City and will Per and Kos be back? I presume the boss will be putting out the first team for that one?
Soups123 wrote: » Reasonable discussion
Deleted User wrote: » Why are all these scousers here?
Paulegend wrote: » so your saying that the team, against reading wasnt a strong team?? course it was. you had international players against reading................
Paulegend wrote: » me being a liverpool fan aside for a second i do think if ye sign suarez, ceaser and maybe fellani and baines you guys would actually be challenging at the top
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