Gringo180 wrote: » Bernard is going to run amuck at Shakhtar and he will be sold at double what they bought him for and we will be wondering why we didn't go in for him, a bit like Yaya Toure, Mata, Vertonghen etc :rolleyes:
Soups123 wrote: » I don't think they have at all said that. Which would make you wonder.
.jacksparrow. wrote: » Just listening to Brendan rodgers saying how Liverpool people stood by Suarez through the racist and biting incident and how they owe him. Is that a bad reflection on Liverpool people that they are seen to stand by racists and someone who bites people!!?I can't get my head around what he meant?
batistuta9 wrote: » they said it on their tour definitely, that they just had to inform him of the bid which make you wonder what is/was the point of it? fúck up by suarezs' people when negotiating the contract/clause?
Oranage2 wrote: » It could be another bluff by rodgers, the guy comes across like a used car sales man, He'll try any ole trick in the book when it comes to transfers.
batistuta9 wrote: » we were loyal to you, now we expect you to be loyal to us & making sure he doesn't forget that they did stand by him
.jacksparrow. wrote: » Even though he was found to be racist and biting someone?
Bam Bam Mickey wrote: » That's what he was talking about though, that they stayed loyal to him despite his awful attitude to playing the game within the rules. If he had not done those things, then they would be standing by him without question as he is of the highest quality and scored a **** load of goals.
.jacksparrow. wrote: » I see, not sure I could do the same.
batistuta9 wrote: » i suppose it could be & he does have a good excuse if he was lying - nobody seems clear on it - but i dont think so, if it were would suarez not have met with arsenal like he's rumoured to want by this stage
speedboatchase wrote: » Anyone for Ginter?http://www.gunnerstown.com/arsenal/2013/7/31/gt-exclusive-arsenal-in-talks-for-german-defensive-duo
Pepe LeFrits wrote: » Ramsey is better than Wilshere at this point in time and I'll be a bit surprised if he doesn't start the season in the first XI.
wawaman wrote: » If Ramsey is the answer, then god help us all
bad2dabone wrote: » seriously? I said to one of my friends that Ramsey was the worst player in the top 4 early in the season but Ramsey went and changed my mind. He's not the "answer" but he's a good player, with the potential to be much better, and the attitude to live up to his potential.
Oranage2 wrote: » I reckon the 40 plus 1 bid was giving to arsenal by someone close to suarez, id be surprised if chats didn't already happen, also I doubt an agent would be so clueless about the contract. All this leaked information looks like desperation from Liverpool to sell to Madrid, though I wouldn't be surprised if its coming from the suarez camp too. Though I'm just speculating and am probably wrong.
wonga77 wrote: » How reliable is it usually?
AdamD wrote: » Ramsey was in great form at the end of the season but I'm not having that at all. Hes not a patch on Wilshere, who played superb when he got a run of injury free games around November-January. Hes on another level to Ramsey and if he stays injury free, with a full pre-season behind him I'd back him to be our player of the year, even if we signed a Suarez. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIwXkpoX12A His ability to pick the ball up in midfield and ghost past a couple of players is unparalleled in the PL, Dembele probably comes closest.
greendom wrote: » I follow the source on twitter @germangunners and he's very quick to knock back any dodgy rumour from Germany so reasonably reliable
Pepe LeFrits wrote: » Wilshere was horrible last season. Ramsey was as good as Wilshere before his injury. When he came back he was horrible too, but people overlooked it (for a while) because a) he was coming back from injury and b) his past reputation. Wilshere is in the same place now; his performances last season in no way warrant a place in the team over Arteta or Ramsey. Hopefully he can progress back to his best a lot quicker than Ramsey but talk of levels of meaningless for me; right now, Ramsey is better.
batistuta9 wrote: » yeah it had to be or else they had someone googling for the stories of saurez signing a new contract and got it from there :pac: i'd say they have too, they were supposed to have been 'encouraged' by his people to make the bid as well, on the clause you'd think that but who knows i'm not sure about the releasing it to get madrid involved, do they really want to sell him?
AdamD wrote: » This must be a piss take? He had about 2 poor games out of 20? Most of the time he played he was our best player. The only time he looked poor was when he came back from the 2nd injury and played 2 games (one against everton possibly? Didnt look great but turned out he was still injured and he didn't play again for the rest of the season). If Wilsheres fit Ramsey shouldn't and won't get a look in if theyre competing for the same spot.