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Would you be ashamed to say you were reared in a Council house?

Hitchens

A pal of mine tells me that his mother-in-law flat out denies that her folks were Council house people. She has herself convinced she never picked spuds when she was a young wan as well.

I think that's so sad.

Is the Celtic Tiger to blame for this attitude or is there a snobbery gene in the Irish race?

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anncoates

I was raised in a council house and my parents still live in it.

[Deleted User]

You should never be ashamed of where you come from whether it was a council estate or a palace, since you've no control over it anyway as a child.

Pretty Polly

You don't get to decide as a baby what kind of house you live in or who your parents are. Life deals you a hand of cards and its up to you to make the right choices.

I don't see why somebody should feel ashamed of growing up in a council house...unless their parent(s) are complete wasters and the house is a kip!

woodoo

Lower classes lazy freeloaders...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNGgs-l8pfI

Outkast_IRE

Couldn't give a **** where someone comes from.

I only judge others on their actions in this life and how they treat others around them.

I have seen little rich kids be mean to stray dogs and cats etc, whilst the poor kid is more than happy to play with the dog or cat and sneak it some food if they can.

One cannot be judged by their background.
That said there are few people I have met in this life which I could truly call righteous or honourable, which is a shame, to me honour is everything.

Johro

Ehh... No.

markc1184

I was born, raised and still live in the same council estate. I've had opportunities to move in the past but I'm very happy were I am so never saw the point.

[Deleted User]

anncoates wrote: »

I was raised in a council house and my parents still live in it.

Yeh same, they own it now, bought it years ago. There's only a few council owned ones left on the street and all the families in them are there years. Tiny tiny two bedroomed terraced one story cottages with no front garden and a struggle for parking. One still managed to sell for over €500,000 in the good days, shocking really.

Miss Lockhart

Pretty Polly wrote: »

You don't get to decide as a baby what kind of house you live in or who your parents are. Life deals you a hand of cards and its up to you to make the right choices.

I don't see why somebody should feel ashamed of growing up in a council house...unless their parent(s) are complete wasters and the house is a kip!

So you shouldn't feel ashamed over what you've no control over. Unless your parents are wasters and your house was a kip?

Celly Smunt

It's not where you come from,it's where you're going to.

dj jarvis

all these positive replies and rightly so , i was raised in a council estate , i bought my house in one , and i am not one bit ashamed of it , why would i be ?
its not the house or who owns it - it the attitude of its occupants

but ........... not the same can be said for some residents of council houses or estates, and yes i hear you cry , "fancy" estates have scum and low lives , but in my experience to a lesser degree - down to life style , aspirations and education
i would say i would be embarrassed by the actions of plenty of my neighbours,

a good example would be my estate , litter everywhere , gangs of dogs roaming the streets , un painted crumbling houses , lads on motorbikes racing around , you get the idea

but the private estate across the road is spotless , no dogs , houses look ok , no car or bike races day and night

so i can say i will never be ashamed coming from the estate i came from or where i live - but i cant say the same for a section of it inhabitants ,
so the actions of these people can and do tarnish an estates name , no matter how many good people live there - so i could understand why some would hide the fact they come from a certain area.

Karl Stein

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQWPR9TM0Gk

2 stroke

I'm embarassed that this country provides houses to complete wasters. Not talking about all council tenants, just the ones that feel entitled to feed off my income, without giving anything back.

astonaidan

My parents live in a Council house, which theyve bought out years ago.
My experience with council estates where Im from is a good one, Ive friends from them and I usually crash in one after nights out.
Ive seen the big council towers in Sydney and Paris and well the west of Ireland for example really cant compare tbh

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I was raised in a council estate. Spent the summers working on a farm to keep me out of trouble and teach me how to be a man, with respect for other people, and respect for work too. If someone looked down on me for being raised in one, I would feel very sorry for them. Prejudice is an awful thing. I'm very successful professionally, so being raised in the manner I was had no ill effects.

Looking down on people in council estates is/was very Celtic Tiger D4 snobbishness. It isn't that long ago when people were dying from the famine here, while we exported thousands of cattle every week to the UK. Don't forget the Irish were sold as slaves in Cromwell's days, and banished to places like Barbados. We have nothing to feel snobbish about, really.

spankysue

I was raised in a council house and my parents still live there, wouldn't have any problems in telling people where I'm from and if they have a hang up about it, that's their problem, not mine.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Wouldn't bother me if I had grown up in a council house, as long as it wasnt in one of the super rough estates in my town.

I moved from a quiet country school into a school in town in 5th class, and the "XX girls" from a particular estate made my two years in that school a nightmare because they thought I was posh and stuck up, I wasnt. I was just very shy.

So, ever since that I'm convinced the whole estate is full of knackers (open the court pages of local paper and I'm not too wrong) and yeah, I'd avoid it, or wouldn't be too inclined to get friendly with anyone from it. I know there's probably more decent families than troublemakers but its just the preconceived notion I have about the place.

Other estates are fine though, I wouldn't have a problem ever having to live there.

1ZRed

Never was, but no, probably wouldn't be ashamed.

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest if someone was reared in one either. I make my judgement on people's character, not trivial things like where they come from or their class or whatever else.

anncoates

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One still managed to sell for over €500,000 in the good days,.

Did they ever think of selling it?

My parents bought theirs for about 9 or 10k years ago but they're definitely in the minority on that estate. It's still really rough there but they know everybody and all their kids are reared so they're happy enough there.

enda1

I'm surprised so people would not be ashamed of their parents for being a 20+ year leach on the state. A short time I understand, but a lifetime?

anncoates

enda1 wrote: »

I'm surprised so people would not be ashamed of their parents for being a 20+ year leach on the state. A short time I understand, but a lifetime?

I think leech is the word you are tortuously angling for?

enda1

anncoates wrote: »

I think leech is the word you are tortuously angling for?

I don't think finding typos provides a very firm base for a counter-argument.

anncoates

enda1 wrote: »

I don't think finding typos provides a very firm base for a counter-argument.

That's the feeble excuse usually offered when the offspring of leeches are better at spelling than you are.

enda1

anncoates wrote: »

That's the feeble excuse usually offered when the offspring of leeches are better at spelling than you are.

Really, that's it? Wow. You've really turned my view around!

If anything your passive aggressiveness and inability to form a coherent counter-argument are not exactly extolling the virtues of council house life.

anncoates

enda1 wrote: »

Really, that's it? Wow. You've really turned my view around!

If anything your passive aggressiveness and inability to form a coherent counter-argument are not exactly extolling the virtues of council house life.

You could almost hear the cogs in your head working to post that: worried that your inner mong would fluff the spelling again.

enda1

anncoates wrote: »

You could almost hear the cogs in your head working to post that: worried that your inner mong would fluff the spelling again.

Spelling. Well enjoy your one success in life.

anncoates

enda1 wrote: »

Spelling. Well enjoy your one success in life.

It's the small details that add to the larger picture.

enda1

anncoates wrote: »

It's the small details that add to the larger picture.

You've set a dangerous precedent for yourself Ms. Coates. I wonder how many typos you've made in the past?

To attempt to get back to the point, as someone who's grown up in a council house are you
- Proud of your parents for living in a council house?
- Neutral towards that issue?
- Ashamed of them for it?

Is it so alien an idea that one could be ashamed of a parent for not being independent - for being a taker from society?

anncoates

enda1 wrote: »

Is it so alien an idea that one could be ashamed of a parent for not being independent - for being a taker from society?

What makes you think that my parents are "takers from society"?

enda1

anncoates wrote: »

What makes you think that my parents are "takers from society"?

That's fine ignore the question. These discussion based internet forums don't really work with one way discussion. You must give a little too, not just take.