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Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

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bad2dabone

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Can't really slate the club for deciding to go for the best available player. Can certainly slate them if they don't pull it off though.

totally agree. I just hope they either go for it properly, or have a proper plan b. but we all know that we need more than a forward, any news on other areas being strengthened?

Pepe LeFrits

gosplan wrote: »

My feeling on Higuain is that Suarez is a better player who will fit into our team better and deliver more for us.

So I can understand walking away from Higuain as long as we get Suarez.

Can't really slate the club for deciding to go for the best available player. Can certainly slate them if they don't pull it off though.

wandatowell

^^^^^^ If spurs get the CL it will be at our expense.

Anyways, Buy all the players Arsene!

jester77

bad2dabone wrote: »

i dunno, most footballers would like at some stage to play for a megateam like Real Madrid. It's an insane amount of money though. I know he's their best player but 80million, that would go a long way towards redeveloping White Hart Lane.

If I was in Spurs position, I wouldn't sell at any cost this season. FFP is calculated over 3 years (I think ?), so all that money they have given out this Summer could easily be paid off next Summer with the sale of Bale. He will go for a similar sum as this season and Spurs should be getting a CL spot with that squad, hopefully not at our expense. I can see why they would hold on.

cson

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Ye but at 23 it can be a daunting prospect moving to another country, and to a big pressure club like Madrid, he seems happy in England, I reckon he might wait a few years before taking the risk of moving to another country, only Beckham has been successful in taking the leap.

He could get injured and there's his dream move gone in an instant. You have to take these opportunities when they present themselves because you just don't know otherwise. People speak about duty and service but was his 20+ goals last season which actually gave them a shot at CL not service/duty enough? I'll never knock a player for taking a chance like that, I will knock them for not being up front and being a **** about it like RVP was.

batistuta9

gosplan wrote: »

My feeling on Higuain is that Suarez is a better player who will fit into our team better and deliver more for us.

So I can understand walking away from Higuain as long as we get Suarez.

it seems two things could've happened with it

1) they dropped him when the heard the price

or

2) dropped it when they heard suarez was a goer

maybe even the two but why look into higuain in the first place (assuming the talks are true) if you really wanted suarez

.jacksparrow.

gosplan wrote: »

My feeling on Higuain is that Suarez is a better player who will fit into our team better and deliver more for us.

So I can understand walking away from Higuain as long as we get Suarez.

True, but its a big risk, lets hope it pays off because were one injury to Giroud away from chamakh leading our attack.

gosplan

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Time will tell I suppose but in my opinion once we walked away from the higuan deal I got a bad feeling things won't change, it just seemed once we had to act like a big club and seal the deal for a class player the club backed down, but I know people probably say he wasn't worth it so I could be wrong, but just seems we still aren't prepared to put our money where our mouth is, nearly august and still no signings.

My feeling on Higuain is that Suarez is a better player who will fit into our team better and deliver more for us.

So I can understand walking away from Higuain as long as we get Suarez.

.jacksparrow.

gosplan wrote: »

I wouldn't so much say season after season (last year was pretty good) but defo this season.

All this dithering about over targets. I'm assuming we have a target beyond Suarez, perhaps the cheap Bernard bid was us.

The club is risking so much trying to save 10million or so on the deals though. If day the Bernard bid was us thru could just add 5m today to both the Suarez and Bernard bid and probably have them in for the Emirates cup.

If we have other targets, then what the hell are they up to.

Dithering!!

Time will tell I suppose but in my opinion once we walked away from the higuan deal I got a bad feeling things won't change, it just seemed once we had to act like a big club and seal the deal for a class player the club backed down, but I know people probably say he wasn't worth it so I could be wrong, but just seems we still aren't prepared to put our money where our mouth is, nearly august and still no signings.

gosplan

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Ye but at 23 it can be a daunting prospect moving to another country, and to a big pressure club like Madrid, he seems happy in England, I reckon he might wait a few years before taking the risk of moving to another country, only Beckham has been successful in taking the leap.

No-one has really tried it at his level though.

Can't see him sticking with Spurs though. He's been there for 6 years. They qualified for the CL once and he tore the sh1t out of it. He must be chomping at the bit to line up against teams like Milan again.

gosplan

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

"With our available transfer budget, it is baffling why season after season we can’t get the transfers we desperately need. Maybe it is time to understand that money is not the issue but those who make the decisions?"

'le grove'

I wouldn't so much say season after season (last year was pretty good) but defo this season.

All this dithering about over targets. I'm assuming we have a target beyond Suarez, perhaps the cheap Bernard bid was us.

The club is risking so much trying to save 10million or so on the deals though. If day the Bernard bid was us thru could just add 5m today to both the Suarez and Bernard bid and probably have them in for the Emirates cup.

If we have other targets, then what the hell are they up to.

Dithering!!

.jacksparrow.

bad2dabone wrote: »

i dunno, most footballers would like at some stage to play for a megateam like Real Madrid. It's an insane amount of money though. I know he's their best player but 80million, that would go a long way towards redeveloping White Hart Lane.

Ye but at 23 it can be a daunting prospect moving to another country, and to a big pressure club like Madrid, he seems happy in England, I reckon he might wait a few years before taking the risk of moving to another country, only Beckham has been successful in taking the leap.

cson

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

I can't even see bale wanting to go to Madrid, I think he would be mad too, he is only 23, he is in no rush.

To play with one of the best teams in the world with some of the best players in the world in a nice warm climate? I'd be all over that at 19 nevermind 23!

bad2dabone wrote: »

i dunno, most footballers would like at some stage to play for a megateam like Real Madrid. It's an insane amount of money though. I know he's their best player but 80million, that would go a long way towards redeveloping White Hart Lane.

Yeah, while short term they'd probably suffer a bit I'd be worried about the long term implications of that sort of cash injection if they spent it right.

bad2dabone

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

I can't even see bale wanting to go to Madrid, I think he would be mad too, he is only 23, he is in no rush.

i dunno, most footballers would like at some stage to play for a megateam like Real Madrid. It's an insane amount of money though. I know he's their best player but 80million, that would go a long way towards redeveloping White Hart Lane.

.jacksparrow.

I can't even see bale wanting to go to Madrid, I think he would be mad too, he is only 23, he is in no rush.

cson

If Real do buy Bale then it plays into Arsenal hands on the proviso that Chelsea get Rooney. There's no other realistic destination for Suarez unless Barcelona decide they want a striker and they quite frankly are the lowball kings.

PSG have Cavani, City have signed two new strikers, there's no way he'd go to United after all that went on there, Juve have Llorente, Milan have Balotelli, Dortmund have Lewandowski, Bayern have Mandzukic...

Liverpool may have to bite the bullet and accept £40-45m for the player when it comes down to it. I'm not a fan of Suarez but tbh the way things are going this summer I'm pretty desperate for us to get anyone who's an improvement on the first XI, and for all his faults, he definitely is.

I'll have big respect for them though if they put their foot down and make him stay, takes serious balls to turn down effectively doubling your money on a player and in particular a sum of that amount. In fairness too, he does seem the type that'd knuckle down and give 100% even if he didn't get his way.

speedboatchase

Leiva wrote: »

Doubt it. But it looks like this week will tell a lot about Bale to Madrid if Twitter is to be believed.

I really can't see Suarez ending up at Arsenal. The owners seriously fuçked up last window and there was open letters etc to fans.
If they sold Suarez to Arsenal it would (imo) spark off some serious questioning of them and the jury's still out on them tbh with lots of fans.

I can't imagine it either but if Real pay up for Bale then it'll come down to Arsenal's willingness to reach a price Liverpool feel is acceptable and would be accepted by their fans considering his baggage/disloyalty to the club. To me, that figure would be a bid of £50m, perhaps with an extra £5m in add-ons. I just can't see Arsenal spending that kind of money though. I think they'll instead make a marginally higher bid, have it rejected, and give up.

.jacksparrow.

"With our available transfer budget, it is baffling why season after season we can’t get the transfers we desperately need. Maybe it is time to understand that money is not the issue but those who make the decisions?"

'le grove'

Leiva

speedboatchase wrote: »

Anyone else think that a giant Gareth Bale transfer might encourage Liverpool to drive up the price of Suarez?

Doubt it. But it looks like this week will tell a lot about Bale to Madrid if Twitter is to be believed.

I really can't see Suarez ending up at Arsenal. The owners seriously fuçked up last window and there was open letters etc to fans.
If they sold Suarez to Arsenal it would (imo) spark off some serious questioning of them and the jury's still out on them tbh with lots of fans.

speedboatchase

Anyone else think that a giant Gareth Bale transfer might encourage Liverpool to drive up the price of Suarez?

gosplan

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Am I a club scout now?

Wild guess - no.

[Deleted User]

gosplan wrote: »

Nothing, you're 100% correct.

Did anyone tell the club that scouting Higuain was analogous to scouting Maradona though?

Am I a club scout now?

gosplan

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What's unrealistic about using statistics and reputation exactly?

Nothing, you're 100% correct.

Did anyone tell the club that scouting Higuain was analogous to scouting Maradona though?

[Deleted User]

Not been impressed with Ryo at all

dvemail

Hopefully he will give Gnabry more time than Ryo.

sonic85

Jaafa wrote: »

Looks like Gerv is off. http://www.football-italia.net/36888/roma-close-arsenals-gervinho

I think this is why wenger said he wasn't going to send ryo out on loan this season. wenger must be planning on giving him a fair bit of playing time

[Deleted User]

gosplan wrote: »

Ah OK, so in your entirely realistic analogy you could hAve just used Morientes.

What's unrealistic about using statistics and reputation exactly?

gosplan

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Dont understand how active this thread is when really and truly **** all has happened in the summer transfer window.

Ah now, a lot of players have left

jonneymendoza

Dont understand how active this thread is when really and truly **** all has happened in the summer transfer window.

Jaafa

Looks like Gerv is off. http://www.football-italia.net/36888/roma-close-arsenals-gervinho