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Autotune

yeppydeppy

So, I'm in a local bar and they are playing a selection of recent / chart music. One song after the other is autotuned. My question is: is autotune here to stay or will peoples tastes return to true musical ability? I think and hope it will die a death and real talent will shine through again but I don't know how long it will take.

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DarkJager

Lets not forget this absolute cringe inducing masterpiece

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5narBAuq87c

yeppydeppy

That's a joke right?

Sky King

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCcu0cbiEbs

yeppydeppy

I'm afraid to watch that.

jamie123

Well just because people use auto-tune does NOT mean they cant sing its just a good effect but however it can be a nuisance if its used on EVERY song an album like Bridgit Mendler uses too much of it even though she can sing live no problem.

SEPT 23 1989

jamie123 wrote: »

Well just because people use auto-tune does NOT mean they cant sing its just a good effect but however it can be a nuisance if its used on EVERY song an album like Bridgit Mendler uses too much of it even though she can sing live no problem.

it is not a good effect to anyone over 14

skimpydoo

yeppydeppy wrote: »

So, I'm in a local bar and they are playing a selection of recent / chart music. One song after the other is autotuned. My question is: is autotune here to stay or will peoples tastes return to true musical ability? I think and hope it will die a death and real talent will shine through again but I don't know how long it will take.

As long as people buy ****e like Brittany Spears, One Direction and X Factor acts it will stay.

frank reynolds

Im certainly not a fan of hers, but Lady Gaga apparently is au-naturale when recording her songs. she wants to prove a point of not using it, and she still sounds as perfectly in tune as the next pop-star who uses it.

bring back grunge that's what i say.
takes a LOT of work and effort to be able to scream/rasp in tune with a band, without it sounding sh!te.

greenflash

frank reynolds wrote: »

Im certainly not a fan of hers, but Lady Gaga apparently is au-naturale when recording her songs.

You mean she has her lad hanging out?

Somewhat Lacking

Extremely auto-tuned music is PAINFUL to listen to. No other word to describe it.

bnt

I don't need a singer to be perfectly in tune with the equal temperament scale. I would like a singer to be in tune with the song. :cool:

For example: if Björk had tried AutoTune on this, the computer would have crashed harder than a plane whose engines have dropped off. Yet it still works - for her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KxtgS2lU94

[Deleted User]

Music in my day didn't have people with long hair playing instruments loud

Music in my day didn't involve synth machines

Music in my day didn't involve people just talkin fast over a beat

Music in my day didn't involve autotune

Popular music will always change as shown over the years from rock to disco to electro to gangsta rap to whatever we have now....we are all just gettin old and associate the era we grew up in as the best formulae for music there is but it never stops evolving and soon enough autotune will be passé to

bnt

^^^ missing the point. Like all those things you mention, Autotune isn't on "on/off" effect. It's possible to use it subtly and effectively, and it's possible to over-use it and let it ruin the music.

For example, I wasn't the slightest bit offended by Cher's notorious use of Autotune on "Believe", because it seemed to me that its obvious use in some parts of the song was a deliberate effect, not an attempt to get away with something. That and the fact that Cher managed to stay in tune just fine without Autotune for several decades before that song i.e. we know she doesn't actually need it.

Then you listen to T-Pain ... I think the "T" stands for "Temporal", the lobe of my brain that experiences acute pain after songs like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noLrCDzAp5M

TroutMask

Wow, this is great! I love T-Pain - always have. His contribution to I'm On A Boat is sublime. Just goes to show that AutoTune, well-used, is a true artistic tool.

Capt'n Midnight

Auto tune is one thing

Spice Girls did like 20 takes on some songs, and studio guys went back over mixing the best bits, down to picking the best takes of individual words. Nowadays the software needs less manual input.

And then there is the Loudness War, which replaces sharp sounds with a wall of noise :mad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LoudnessWar?from=Main.RecordOfLoudnessWar

Metallica's newest album Death Magnetic is so distorted and clipped that even mastering engineer Ted Jensen has criticized it, adding that he couldn't do anything since the preliminary mixes came in already "brick-walled". Interestingly, the version made for Guitar Hero 3 was based on a "rough mix" that features far more range, and those tracks have been subsequently ripped and distributed via peer-to-peer services. To sum up: Metallica, the anti-Napster poster boys, now have an album that can only be truly appreciated via piracy, and a video game featuring a guitar with 5 buttons on the fret-board is the best way to enjoy an album... the irony boggles the mind.

Lightbulb Sun

Sure even Bon Iver uses it. Granted it's used as a vocal effect to create a strange voice rather than a tool to enhance an average voice as your Chris Browns will do.

That Daft Punk vocal sound is actually a vocoder and has always been a trademark of their sound.

MadsL

Switch to Contemporary Country Rock, seems to be a bit more pride in vocal performance...unless I'm missing the suble auto-tune.

.jacksparrow.

I think Michael buble uses it in his new song.

Ruudi_Mentari

I trust its use is agreeable here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVKm19JMd9Q

Smiles35

That's not auto-tune Ruudi! That's being put through what's known as a Vocoder http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocoder

/Sound effect nazi :mad: