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TUS Programme

rsole1

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Hi Had a letter from Social Protection inviting me to participate on a TUS Programme. I have done an internet search and there seems to be very little "chatter" about it from people who have been on it, does anyone have any experience of it? I know how much it pays and a broad idea of what type of jobs etc, but would like some first hand experience from people in the know. Sounds a bit like a CE Scheme.

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Backstreet Moyes

danjo-xx wrote: »

Ask at interview if weekend work involved. Its complete exploitation of course for only €20 extra per week which you'll probably spend on bus fares anyway to get to work.

I think CE participants are covered by insurance to work up till 9.30 pm at nights.

C.E. Rate used to be €240 pw till they cut it to bits.

The placement offered is not exactly going to give me experience in what i studied in college. But FAS are really on top of me so i nearly hope i get it. I went for an interview 2 weeks ago and it was a 40 minute walk away. This place in 10 mins down the road.

I was told you have to work every second Saturday and some days up until 9pm. I really don't mind getting out of the house but i think this is unfair. I would be like a dog missing Champions League games and football training and watching football on a Saturday. I know some people will probably say tough or whatever my personal opinion is it's unfair. I have no problem doing the 19.5 hours during 9-5 hours. But i think it's unfair to ask people working for free to do evenings and a Saturday. Surely the people who are getting paid should be doing those hours.

Crazyteacher

I got the letter inviting me to participate today:( Well I dont know how it's inviting me to apply if a few lines down in the letter they are threatening me to apply. Believe me i'm seeking a job. It's only been a few months since I had to go to that group meeting for the activation thing. Here I was seriously considering a jobbridge an hour away from my home each way. And then this letter comes. There's not a thing I could do in my community that's relevant to my qualifications. What is the meeting with them like? Is it another group meeting ? I dont think I could handle another one.

Crazyteacher

I take it I should definitely complete this letter anyway(they way they require if of course) and then pray it takes months for the meeting by which case I should hopefully have got a job or be starting the jobbridge? What happens if you dont like a jobbridge placement? Can they force you in to something else?

jos22

Crazyteacher wrote: »

I got the letter inviting me to participate today:( Well I dont know how it's inviting me to apply if a few lines down in the letter they are threatening me to apply. Believe me i'm seeking a job. It's only been a few months since I had to go to that group meeting for the activation thing. Here I was seriously considering a jobbridge an hour away from my home each way. And then this letter comes. There's not a thing I could do in my community that's relevant to my qualifications. What is the meeting with them like? Is it another group meeting ? I dont think I could handle another one.

I read before that TUS scheme was aimed at the jobless 'without 3rd level qualifications before they started targeting everyone.

I doubt anyone with any degree will get any relevant experience from TUS. it just a scheme used to fill what was once a waged paid job that the current and previous Governments got rid of.

If i was you I would go job bridge over TUS. at least with job bridge you can pick the "job" and company you want to work with.
the place I was with fixed my times to suit my bus timetable.

I have my meeting with TUS next week so I'll be finding out what my ones are like then.

As far as the job bridge thing goes if it not working out, you must first talk to your mentor.
if still un happy you can contact Job bridge / fas and chat with them.
then they can arrange to end job bridge early.
you can then apply for another one and use the rest of your 9 months with that one.
but you can do no more than 9 months in 2 years ( i think that part is right)

If you leave with out doing that you have issue with the dole office.

the extra 50 euro you get too can take about a month to kick in but is back dated, and unlike tus you don't get most of it take off you via PRSI charge.

Crazyteacher

Yeah the distance to the proposed jobbridge position makes it totally unfeasible. As in there's no bus route there at all and i've no car. I'll go along be seen to participate at this tus meeting whenever it comes up. Thanks for advise. Let me know how the Tus meeting goes.

smiley_face400

jos22 wrote: »

unlike tus you don't get most of it take off you via PRSI charge.

You don't pay PRSI on Tús. You may get emergency taxed at the beginning but once you ring or go into your tax office it will be sorted and refunded after which you will get your full €208 a week with no deductions

jos22

smiley_face400 wrote: »

You don't pay PRSI on Tús. You may get emergency taxed at the beginning but once you ring or go into your tax office it will be sorted and refunded after which you will get your full €208 a week with no deductions

letter states
a rate A or PRSI will apply

smiley_face400

Tax and PRSI
The Tús payment is taxable but the amount payable depends on individual circumstances.

Class A PRSI contributions will be paid for all participants. Those earning more than €352 a week will pay a PRSI contribution.

Participants on the Tús scheme are exempt from the Universal Social Charge.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/unemployment_and_redundancy/employment_support_schemes/tus.html

jos22

smiley_face400 wrote: »

Tax and PRSI
The Tús payment is taxable but the amount payable depends on individual circumstances.

Class A PRSI contributions will be paid for all participants. Those earning more than €352 a week will pay a PRSI contribution.

Participants on the Tús scheme are exempt from the Universal Social Charge.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/unemployment_and_redundancy/employment_support_schemes/tus.html

so if your only doing the 19.5 hours and nothing else you pay nothing

smiley_face400

Pretty much. I'm not sure how it works if you're on other benefits that amount to above €352 a week when combined with your Tús payment. I would expect not but this is the Irish government we're talking about. That'd be one for social welfare or your Tús rep.

Also, don't be fooled by the 10 days annual leave and think you only get 2 weeks holidays in the year. It's 10 full time days which amounts to 4 weeks as 19 1/2 hours is technically only 2 1/2 days of a full time week no matter how many days it's spread over.

mcgocks

what do u mean smiley? its ten and a half days off. how does mines add up if i do three days a week. Will they hopefully count three days in the one week as a holiday and not include the other two days where i am off?

danjo-xx

mcgocks wrote: »

what do u mean smiley? its ten and a half days off. how does mines add up if i do three days a week. Will they hopefully count three days in the one week as a holiday and not include the other two days where i am off?

18. Will Annual Leave be allowed on Tús?

Yes, the entitlement will be 10½ days based on the statutory minimum of 20 days per annum which applies to other full-time employment.

All participants are entitled to annual leave totalling 8% of their total hours worked over a 12 month period.

Pro-rata annual leave entitlements apply to periods worked of less than 12 months duration within the leave year.

e.g. 19.5hrs pw x 52wks = 1014hrs p.a. 1014 x 8% = 81hrs annual leave, which is 4 weeks.

smiley_face400

mcgocks wrote: »

what do u mean smiley? its ten and a half days off. how does mines add up if i do three days a week. Will they hopefully count three days in the one week as a holiday and not include the other two days where i am off?

The amount of days you do is irrelevant. It's the amount of hours (19.5) you do no matter how they're spread over the week. In full time (40) hours 19.5 hours is only 2 and a half days of the week based on an 8 hour day.

Therefore, if one Tús week is only 2 and a half days then 10 days = 4 weeks

mcgocks

Well I think that's brilliant then there is a few positives at least. My job is going well so far again in administration like yourself :-)

mcgocks

do we get payslips from tus ? how do we get them, by post? when?

smiley_face400

mcgocks wrote: »

do we get payslips from tus ? how do we get them, by post? when?

We get them in the post. I usually get mine on a Friday so I presume they send them after they lodge your money to your account as you get paid on a Thursday.

Good that you're enjoying the job. It can work out well if you're clear about what you want and what you'll do. I'm learning loads that's relevant to my current skills and will help in future job searches plus meeting lots of contacts that could help me get a job post Tus

leanonme

Hello,

I was wondering if someone can help me out. My partner might be starting a tus programe shortly, and I am wondering if he will be entitled to do a fas course along with it, the fas course does not start till october. Also if he takes up the Tus and I manage to get a job, how would his payment be effected. He rang the social welfare office but they were not able to answer him.

hayleyy2013

i also recieved a letter from these went to an interview last wk and they told me that i will be working 19.5hrs a week i did say to them i have a five year old child and im four+ months pregnant with my second.that didnt seem to bother her
would i be better off going to single parent seeing as i would have to pay for chilcare for my child.
Its hard enough being in dublin without this happening and i know my partner wouldnt look after my 5 yr old child as its not his and he has full time in college.
anybody with any ideas need an answer asap

Faith+1

hayleyy2013 wrote: »

i also recieved a letter from these went to an interview last wk and they told me that i will be working 19.5hrs a week i did say to them i have a five year old child and im four+ months pregnant with my second.that didnt seem to bother her
would i be better off going to single parent seeing as i would have to pay for chilcare for my child.
Its hard enough being in dublin without this happening and i know my partner wouldnt look after my 5 yr old child as its not his and he has full time in college.
anybody with any ideas need an answer asap

And they still want you to participate in this programme? FFS :mad:

Fred Swanson

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rsole1

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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I'm 9 months since initial interview with TUS and not a word.

Fred Swanson

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Sephiroth_dude

What happens if you get called but you've been accepted onto a college course in september?do you still have to go?

danjo-xx

hayleyy2013 wrote: »

i know my partner wouldnt look after my 5 yr old child as its not his

some partner:eek:

hayleyy2013

so its fairly obvious to me i shud change to one parent.family payments
i cudnt exactly ask my partner to drop out of college

rsole1

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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I knew the TUS interviewer when he had a proper job. Yes it was helped to fall through the cracks. As with everything in Ireland, not what you know but who.

StillWaters

hayleyy2013 wrote: »

so its fairly obvious to me i shud change to one parent.family payments
i cudnt exactly ask my partner to drop out of college

You cannot claim one parent family payments if you are living with your boyfriend.

Faith+1 wrote: »

And they still want you to participate in this programme? FFS :mad:

I don't know why this makes you mad. Pregnancy isn't an illness. Many many women work right up to confinement. TUS participants are entitled to the same maternity leave as other workers.

hayleyy2013

if he moves bk to his mams around the corner then i could.
I know pregnancy is not an illness thats obvious but im saying for couples with a kid some of which the child is not the new partners tus should at least give you help with childcare or have a programme that works around your kids.
I even said when mentioning the course i applied for its in the mornings while my child is in school. I cannot/will not disregard my childs nessesity of going to school or missing school just to suit them.
I have no family up here which is hard enough with out them on my back.

mcgocks

tus supervisors don't give a **** if you have young children or no transport etc. As long as you are down as a jobseekers then you will be targeted sooner or later. I have a two year and they don't care, they don't give you anything extra for childcare costs or anything in fact. Worse for you living with a partner too. This Government must want couples to suffer or simply it just can break up relationships too due to more financial pressure and friction looking after children half the week alone

hayleyy2013

it s fecking annoying so it is because ex junkies and alcos are on illness benefit and not jsa so how come they get away with it!!
How the hell is that an illness when they put themselves there and there let away scot free this country is backwards even with the household charge if your unemployed you still have to pay it.
They simply cant force me to do a tus programme when i am intending on doing a course in sept /october.