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Retr0gamer

Hmm let's see how a thread like this works.

Anyway for the first post I'd like to let people know that ATB podcast with its host Kat Bailey is back on 1up. The first episode might be Western RPG focused but the podcast is well worth a listen.

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ghostchant

You're in the same sector as me so. Yeah that boss was a pain, the kind of boss if I didn't get past it in a week or so I might have never gone back to the game.

Retr0gamer

Hope there's nothing quite as tough later on. I'm used to SMT so I knew it was possible I just needed a far more specialised team. Once I got a good demon with a defense buff I knew I could beat him.

_Godot_

Replaying Star Ocean First Departure for the third time. It's one of my most favourite games.

cherryghost

Index Corporation has registered persona5.com

snausages

Hopefully for PS3 or Wii-U, any console really. Don't like handhelds because of postural issues and screen damage.

Retr0gamer

I'd put money on it being a 3DS game. PS3 just isn't popular enough in Japan. I'd be happy with that, much prefer my RPGs portable.

cherryghost

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I'd put money on it being a 3DS game. PS3 just isn't popular enough in Japan. I'd be happy with that, much prefer my RPGs portable.

megaten

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I'd put money on it being a 3DS game. PS3 just isn't popular enough in Japan. I'd be happy with that, much prefer my RPGs portable.

It'll be ps3. Persona's popular but so popular that the ps3 install base would damage potential sales.

cherryghost

3DS would be cheaper for a parent company that's been in trouble recently. Plus console sales haven't been THAT spectacular. I wouldn't be surprised if we seen a PSVita version too. P4: The Golden has sold more copies than P3 on the PS2.

EDIT: I lied, P3 in Japan was sold under a different name. Still, looks like the PS2 P3 only sold about 100,000 copies more.

Retr0gamer

It will make the most of it's sales in Japan and currently the console with the biggest install base is the 3DS which is also doing remarkably well in the West. It just makes sense to be on 3DS

megaten

I think the recent persona's have done about 300k each.

snausages

I hope they do something interesting with this one and not just the P3/P4 template. It's a new generation of Persona, maybe focus on early-mid twenty types.

Retr0gamer

snausages wrote: »

I hope they do something interesting with this one and not just the P3/P4 template. It's a new generation of Persona, maybe focus on early-mid twenty types.

Persona is about teenagers, that's what the series stands for, shin megami tensei but with teens. If you want older protagonists then the Devil Summoner, Digital Devil Story or the main series will have you covered. With SMT IV out in a week you should have that area covered.

I hope they do something new with the battle system. I love the P3 and P4 system but I wouldn't want it to go stale either.

snausages

Why does the series 'stand' for teenagers? That's not what Persona means to me. What I like about SMT is how it doesn't adhere to any set convention. Anyway mainline SMT has had teenagers, like SMTIII. Yet IV does not.

cherryghost

megaten wrote: »

I think the recent persona's have done about 300k each.

P4: The Golden has sold just over half a million copies, which is the 4th biggest selling game on the PSVita so far. .5m doesn't sound like much but putting it into perspective of PSVita hardware sales, 1 in 10 owners bought The Golden. That's the highest console to game ratio of any Persona game on any platform.

Now imagine the 3DS. 30 million? It really does make a lot of sense to go handheld.

Retr0gamer

snausages wrote: »

Why does the series 'stand' for teenagers? That's not what Persona means to me. What I like about SMT is how it doesn't adhere to any set convention. Anyway mainline SMT has had teenagers, like SMTIII. Yet IV does not.

It's a spin off of SMT... if? set in a school with teenagers. It what defines the series in the same way Maijin Tensei is defined by being a SRPG. It isn't really Persona if it's about a bunch of 20-30 year olds in school, that would be Saved by the Bell :P That's just what the series is about.

snausages

Didn't know that about ....if, but I think a mix of teens with adults should work just fine. There's no set age you can become a persona user and P2 already did it anyway. I think Catherine shows that Atlus are perfectly capable of writing for adults as well as teens.

Retr0gamer

Well as I said you've got Soul Hackers and SMTIV for that. If you want something like Persona 3 and 4 then there's Nocturne which has the same press turn system.

_Godot_

I am still replaying Star Ocean: First Departure. It's my third playthrough. Just finished doing private actions and about to go to the demon world.

Retr0gamer

I trying to get through Strange Journey before SMT IV is out but I don't think that will happen. At least SMTIV is a blast.

Retr0gamer

SMT IV getting some stellar reviews:

http://www.metacritic.com/game/3ds/shin-megami-tensei-iv

Kat Bailey gave it 8.5, said the story is a bit staid. Sounds kind of like Nocturne to me which is all good in my books.

snausages

One thing I hope if I ever get a 3DS is that they make all paths equally interesting as far as content is concerned. I felt like with SMTIII you're really missing out not going down the 'True Demon' route (which may or may not constitute the 'canon' route for the backstory of this new game, I'm not sure). But going down that route pretty much trivalises any major decisions you were asked to make later on.

Retr0gamer

It was the same with SMT1. If you picked law you could only take on the demons in the basement of the tower. If picked Chaos you had to kill the angels by going up the tower. If you picked Neutral it was the canon ending leading into SMT2 and you got to tear ass around the Tower taking everything out!

I've heard that strange journey had much better content for all alignment paths so hopefully they follow that games example.

Darkstrike

Suikoden Day yesterday, slight bit depressing, tbh, all seems pointless.

RedXIV

Darkstrike wrote: »

Suikoden Day yesterday, slight bit depressing, tbh, all seems pointless.

What's suikoden day?

Darkstrike

Some thing a bunch of Suikoden fans drummed up, all to do with getting a new Suikoden, or old ones ported.

Retr0gamer

Doubt we'll see anything like that happening. Would be nice to have Suikoden 1 and 2 on PSP or PSN but Konami have gone to **** lately. The Suikoden team long disbanded and the series isn't really Suikoden anymore.

Darkstrike

Yeah, it'll never happen, which is a shame. I'd honestly play every one they made available, even Tierkreis and the PSP Japan only one.

Sephiroth_dude

So who's pure ordered tales of xillia?

megaten

I still haven't beaten vesperia yet. I think I'm on the second to last dungeon. I think I'll wait for reviews on Xillia since initial reports suggested it felt unfinished and that you need to play as the male character first to understand what's happening completely.