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Which Irish political party would you like to see in a new government?

OCorcrainn

If the government collapsed tomorrow and a general election was called, who would you vote for?

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Twoandahalfmen

If not the next general election the one after sinn fein will be in power.
All us people who are turning 18 in the next 3/4 years will be supporting sinn fein.

laoch na mona

god help the 77 that said FG

RandomName2

Twoandahalfmen wrote: »

If not the next general election the one after sinn fein will be in power.
All us people who are turning 18 in the next 3/4 years will be supporting sinn fein.

Why?

Don't get me wrong - the rest are a shower. It's a system that requires reform imo. SF have all the vices of the other political parties, and then add a whole additional lot, unique to them.

awec

SF won't be in power in Ireland (i.e. the majority party) until they get a clue. They are useless at national level.

laoch na mona

RandomName2 wrote: »

Why?

well they have the right level of socialism and not half the baggage of the big parties

Conmaicne Mara

laoch na mona wrote: »

god help the 77 that said FG

78 since I voted

RandomName2

laoch na mona wrote: »

well they have the right level of socialism

The level of socialism that = lots of promises they can't keep

laoch na mona wrote: »

and not half the baggage of the big parties

*chuckles*

yuloni

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RiverOfLove

The currant parties aren't all that great or touching.

Often I read things here on boards, if you're not happy why don't you set up your own party. How would one go about doing that?

I wish I had some politicial education behind me & knew a thing or two on politics. Truth be told I'm fecking clueless on politics. I'd love to enter & shake this whole country up in many areas but wouldn't know how to. Often I have trouble expressin my views & opinions in talking but better at writing them.

Boards.ie would do great at setting up a party. At the top of my head, Biggins, Blindjustice & Tayto Lover would be brillant but there are many more people here on boards that I like & agree with & are fair.

Enough ramblings from me.

At a push, I like Mary Lou McDonald & she's part of SF so I'd give SF a vote. After that it would be independents. The last GE I was very happy giving my number to an independent who is a business person & has a child with special needs. He would have been brillant but he never got in.

Kippure

I want to see a ruthless dictatorship that cuts down the very people that destroyed Ireland.

playedalive

heyjude wrote: »

We need a new government made up of new people, with fresh new ideas, rather than retreads or clones. Maybe for a change we could try electing a government whose cabinet isn't composed of former teachers, farmers, publicans or trade union officials. I'm not talking about adding a few more auctioneers, accountants or solicitors either, but what about involving some actual business people who know what it takes to create real jobs.:D

The problem with Irish politics is there are too many politicians for such a small country. Also Irish politics, as a result, is so parochial. I think it's incredible how James Reilly spent a chunk of budget money dedicated towards autism in his own constituency rather than attempt to distribute that money in other parts of the country where autistic kids don't even have proper dignified services or even proper school places. Politicians, like him, care about nothing more than votes from their own constituency. Of course, I'm only referring to one example but it just shows such an abuse of power.

I understand where you're coming from with business people. It is terribly true that a lot of our politicians come from the same circles.

joe swanson

I really havr no idea at the moment. Noone appeals to me. if I could for someone not to be in government it would be sinn fein/ira.

I tend not to have a high opinion of murdering mostly innocent people. Thge shinnerbots glorify this ,you just have to look in the window of a shinner shop.

A lot of young people are attracted to them having never lived through the atrocities that went on BY BOTH SIDEs. Hopefully these people will mature as they get older.

Twoandahalfmen

joe swanson wrote: »

I really havr no idea at the moment. Noone appeals to me. if I could for someone not to be in government it would be sinn fein/ira.

I tend not to have a high opinion of murdering mostly innocent people. Thge shinnerbots glorify this ,you just have to look in the window of a shinner shop

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A lot of young people are attracted to them having never lived through the atrocities that went on BY BOTH SIDEs. Hopefully these people will mature as they get older.

Sinn Fein and Gerry Adams will naked this country great again.
They should be given a chance.
GA thinks about the people. Listen to him in oireachtas Report some night on RTE.

Yea I'm only 17 but have been interested in politics since I was 15 and only SF have impressed me.

joe swanson

Twoandahalfmen wrote: »

Sinn Fein and Gerry Adams will naked this country great again.
They should be given a chance.
GA thinks about the people. Listen to him in oireachtas Report some night on RTE.

Yea I'm only 17 but have been interested in politics since I was 15 and only SF have impressed me.

Lol. You gave me a good laugh.

laoch na mona

RandomName2 wrote: »

The level of socialism that = lots of promises they can't keep

*chuckles*

1. you are clearly an expert. any proposal they make is fully costed by the department of finance

2. Fighting for freedom and standing up for civil rights is a lot better the FF corruption and FG fascist past and corruption and uselessness, no need to mention Labour

marienbad

laoch na mona wrote: »

1. you are clearly an expert. any proposal they make is fully costed by the department of finance

2. Fighting for freedom and standing up for civil rights is a lot better the FF corruption and FG fascist past and corruption and uselessness, no need to mention Labour

and you want to be in government ? No wonder voters run a mile !

Iwasfrozen

laoch na mona wrote: »

1. you are clearly an expert. any proposal they make is fully costed by the department of finance

2. Fighting for freedom and standing up for civil rights is a lot better the FF corruption and FG fascist past and corruption and uselessness, no need to mention Labour

1. You are clearly delusional if you think SF wil be in power this time around or next.

2. SF have principles? That's a new one on me.

Iwasfrozen

Twoandahalfmen wrote: »

Sinn Fein and Gerry Adams will naked this country great again.
They should be given a chance.
GA thinks about the people. Listen to him in oireachtas Report some night on RTE.

Yea I'm only 17 but have been interested in politics since I was 15 and only SF have impressed me.

That's only two years. I don't mean to sound patronising but you're very young. Read up more on Irish history, particularly that of the North. As you get older hopefully you'll understand politics in a larger focus and be able to cut through the sentimentality of SF demagogues and place their past actions into historical focus.

kraggy

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

1. You are clearly delusional if you think SF wil be in power this time around or next.

2. SF have principles? That's a new one on me.

I'm not a fan of SF, but there's a good chance them and FF will make up the next government.

Who else could given the current polls? FG/lab? FG/ind? FF/ind?

The last two are unrealistic as the largest party in the next election will be too far short of a majority meaning they'd need around 30 others. That lleaves either SF or Independents. That many independents, with all their demands in return for supporting the larger party, would prove too unstable.

Labour will be decimated in the next election. They won't be able to provide the numbers.

FG/FF won't happen.

FG/lab wouldn't have the numbers.

FG/ DEFINITELY won't happen.

That leaves FF/SF as the only real possibility of a STABLE government.

Stranger things have happened.

Iwasfrozen

kraggy wrote: »

I'm not a fan of SF, but there's a good chance them and FF will make up the next government.

Who else could given the current polls? FG/lab? FG/ind? FF/ind?

The last two are unrealistic as the largest party in the next election will be too far short of a majority meaning they'd need around 30 others. That lleaves either SF or Independents. That many independents, with all their demands in return for supporting the larger party, would prove too unstable.

Labour will be decimated in the next election. They won't be able to provide the numbers.

FG/FF won't happen.

FG/lab wouldn't have the numbers.

FG/ DEFINITELY won't happen.

That leaves FF/SF as the only real possibility of a STABLE government.

Stranger things have happened.

They have and one way or another I think FF will be the majority party in the next government, either on their own or in a coalition. I don't think solo FF will happen though. My prediction is FF/independents. Minor coalition parties have historically done very poorly in Ireland and I don't see SF making the same mistake. They'd rather sit the next one out in the hope of becoming the largest opposition party.

On the other hand, FG may allow FF to form a minority government. Anything's possible.

marienbad

kraggy wrote: »

I'm not a fan of SF, but there's a good chance them and FF will make up the next government.

Who else could given the current polls? FG/lab? FG/ind? FF/ind?

The last two are unrealistic as the largest party in the next election will be too far short of a majority meaning they'd need around 30 others. That lleaves either SF or Independents. That many independents, with all their demands in return for supporting the larger party, would prove too unstable.

Labour will be decimated in the next election. They won't be able to provide the numbers.

FG/FF won't happen.

FG/lab wouldn't have the numbers.

FG/ DEFINITELY won't happen.

That leaves FF/SF as the only real possibility of a STABLE government.

Stranger things have happened.

Not a chance. We are an inherently conservative people .And FG/Lab for the next few years are the only game in town that fits with that mindset and will get re-elected handily enough (imho).

Iwasfrozen

marienbad wrote: »

Not a chance. We are an inherently conservative people .And FG/Lab for the next few years are the only game in town that fits with that mindset and will get re-elected handily enough (imho).

I don't see it. I think Labour will be annihilated in the next election and the proceeds of that will go to FF.

[Deleted User]

FF will, without a modicum of doubt, be back in, at the next election.

kraggy

marienbad wrote: »

Not a chance. We are an inherently conservative people .And FG/Lab for the next few years are the only game in town that fits with that mindset and will get re-elected handily enough (imho).

The latest poll puts labour on 8%. that's only a handful of seats. FG/lab won't come close to a majority so they'll need either:

Loads of independents, or

The support of FF.

marienbad

Deleted User wrote: »

FF will, without a modicum of doubt, be back in, at the next election.

Not a chance, we never forgive pols that f*%k with our money, ask Mary O'Rourke

Iwasfrozen

marienbad wrote: »

Not a chance, we never forgive pols that f*%k with our money, ask Mary O'Rourke

I really have to disagree with you. I'd bet a weeks wage (as a student that's 0) on FF being back in office as the majority party. Labour will be wiped out and the sophisticated urban left wing class will never vote SF. Those votes will be back to their natural home in FF. Along with the farming and rural middle class.

The reason FF stayed so popular for so long is their incredible ability to reach across the political spectrum and be everything to everybody and they haven't lost that ability.

[Deleted User]

The likely FF candidate in my constituency for the next general election is a music teacher. No thanks.

voz es

FG: Dictates
FF: Cowboys who self serve
LB: A weak resolve for structure and can only seem to agree on ideas what cost or limit joe soap.
SF: What lurkes in the dark
IND: Voiceless
OTHER: I really hope there will be an other choice next time i go to vote

efb

Where's that loony brigade that hope to run Count S. Markowitz?

[Deleted User]

I'll never vote for a political party, and I'll only vote for an Independent, if I have genuine belief in them. Otherwise, I don't/won't vote.