M442 wrote: » I don't know why you are blaming the media for this one, incest is the international taboo!!!! Pretty much every group of people in every part of the world ,except Offaly, different religions and languages, decided incest was wrong. In royal families they married cousins, but I don't think they got involved with siblings!!!
caustic 1 wrote: » Maybe Mr Cruise is trying to tell us something.
Chucken wrote: » I've been wondering for a while what exactly he is trying to tell us Strange!
Tom_Cruise wrote: » Why is incest bad? Just because the media etc portray it as taboo, does not mean it's bad. The only reason I would condone incestual relationships is if the the relatives choose to have a child, this is unfair as it is likely the baby may develop deformities. Only in this scenario is it a crime. Just like rape, murder etc are all crimes because they impose a negative cost to society and the individuals involved. Otherwise, I really don't mind if a brother and sister decide to have sex. Take a step back and think about it for a second, you only think it's wrong because you're told it's wrong. Incest was practiced for hundreds of years in the royal family. Many indigenous tribes still practice it, because they aren't exposed to media etc telling them what's right or wrong. They act on human nature, and frankly, incest is a desire most humans share. Hence, the abundance of incest themed porn produced. Even freud himself said young boys fall in love with their mothers, and young girls fall in love with their fathers. It's human nature, so why condemn it. It's not harming anybody. I really don't understand why consensual incestual relations are illegal either.
PizzamanIRL wrote: » One of OP's recent threads http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=84760608 Uh-oh, watch out Tom's sister and mother.
bnt wrote: » I'm amazed at how short-sighted people can be, to even ask such questions. It reflects a total ignorance of history. We have things good these days, so we forget that actions have real consequences that have nothing to do with "morals" or "norms". Last week we had "why is it bad to be a slut?", and the simple answer is STDs. We may take antibiotics for granted, but they are a relatively-recent invention, so it's not surprising that the stigma remains. (As it should: prevention is always better than any possible cure.)So with incest, the real risk is of inbreeding, with birth deformities etc . Sure, these days you can use contraceptives, but (once again) that's a recent development. It's a bad idea for objective reasons, no "morals" required. The "ick factor" evolved because it helps to keep us from things that are stupid, even if why it's stupid is not immediately obvious. If you're going to remain ignorant of history and science, instinct is all you can rely on. :rolleyes:
downonthefarm wrote: » despite what the song suggests incest is NOT the best and you would be extremely ill advised to put your sister to the test
IM0 wrote: » curious whats the scientific explanation for that one? sounds like something someone religious said once and everyone said ok tbh every sperm is different and unique in EVERY SINGLE MAN< AND THEY HOLD DIFFERNT DNA DEPENDING ON WHAT MICROSOCEND YOU ARE CURRENTLY IN. 1000 SPERMS ARE PRODUCED IN SECONDS AND THEY ARE ALLLL DIFFERENT so it makes zero sense, and like the OP said, places that have not been touched much by westerners and religions ride eachother like rabbits and there is nothing wrong with them. plus if you think about it, back in the day thousands and thousands of years ago you would be fighting you father to **** your mother. it makes 100% evolutionary sense, you keep the genes in the family and produce more of the same ones. but like I say we decided this was not the way to live anymore so psychologically evolved zand left this natural animalistic way behind. the only thing natural that humans do now is have bodily functions and sex, everything else is what we decided is going to be civilised made the rules and stuck to them...well most of us do, for those that dont we have jails
bnt wrote: » I'm amazed at how short-sighted people can be, to even ask such questions. It reflects a total ignorance of history. We have things good these days, so we forget that actions have real consequences that have nothing to do with "morals" or "norms". Last week we had "why is it bad to be a slut?", and the simple answer is STDs. We may take antibiotics for granted, but they are a relatively-recent invention, so it's not surprising that the stigma remains. (As it should: prevention is always better than any possible cure.) So with incest, the real risk is of inbreeding, with birth deformities etc. Sure, these days you can use contraceptives, but (once again) that's a recent development. It's a bad idea for objective reasons, no "morals" required. The "ick factor" evolved because it helps to keep us from things that are stupid, even if why it's stupid is not immediately obvious. If you're going to remain ignorant of history and science, instinct is all you can rely on. :rolleyes:
mentalist101 wrote: » Its wrong, besides Incest involves more than brothers and sisters. Imagine parents grooming their children into having sex with them since they are young and they start to believe its grand when they are older and give 'consent' to the act. Or the case of the Man who wanted to have only daughters to add to his harem, as Fathers have to have the first taste *yuck*
DaveDaRave wrote: » So homosexual incestuous relationships. Whats the argument against them, since they cant breed.
Femme_Fatale wrote: » That's not always what leads to incest. What if it's just a brother and sister who start to fancy either as they reach adulthood? I know it's weird but once they don't have kids, what are they actually doing wrong?
mentalist101 wrote: » But the question was 'what is actually wrong with incest'? Not just sexual relations between brothers and sisters who start to fancy each other. What of the girls who fancy their dads or guys who are into their Mams, as long as its consensual should it be allowed..... I think not. It is open to abuse in so many ways
Remmy wrote: » Suri you can't be serious with this sh1t op ?
IM0 wrote: » Ill see your incest and raise you rape!
Tom_Cruise wrote: » I think we have come to the conclusion that there is nothing wrong with it, and therefore it should not be illegal. People will never take to the streets to protest against this law in a similar manner to say, the issue of abortion but over time peoples attitudes may change.
daheff wrote: » Ill see your rape and raise you necrophilia. Consent given by all living participants.
The Backwards Man wrote: » Did prehistoric humans engage in incestuous relationships? And if not, what prevented them from doing so?
