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Is the Orange Order dying out?

Jimmy Garlic

I was talking to a fella this morning and he said there has been a massive decline in membership of the Orange Order over the last ten or so years. He also said that the same OO members are marching in several towns on the 12th every year to give the illusion of numbers. By the end of the day a lot of them are fit to drop.

Is it on the way out as an organisation?

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AngeGal

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

I was talking to a fella this morning and he said there has been a massive decline in membership of the Orange Order over the last ten or so years. He also said that the same OO members are marching in several towns on the 12th every year to give the illusion of numbers. By the end of the day a lot of them are fit to drop.

Is it on the way out as an organisation?

Hopefully. The death of an organisation founded upon bigotry is always welcome.

Kylo Ren

Who orders oranges anyway? Just get them from the supermarket you lazy so and so.

crazygeryy

hopefully

kowloon

They need to make their parades fun. Antagonising the nationalists just isn't enough anymore. They need floats, costumes and the handing out of sweets.

y0pperz

Alive and well in Cork anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEm-zzw4FmE

Nodin

kowloon wrote: »

They need to make their parades fun. Antagonising the nationalists just isn't enough anymore. They need floats, costumes and the handing out of sweets.

...maybe a guy in assless leather chaps and a few dancing girls....

yore

Two pints of Guinness and a bottle of ord-ange for the chisler there barman

Fratton Fred

AngeGal wrote: »

Hopefully. The death of an organisation founded upon bigotry is always welcome.

I could never understand why a misogynist homophobic organisation like the orange order hated Rome so much, surely they are kindred spirits.

DEFTLEFTHAND

What kind of numbers do the Ancient Order of Hibernians have these days?

everdead.ie

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I could never understand why a misogynist homophobic organisation like the orange order hated Rome so much, surely they are kindred spirits.

It's funny because they do actually seem very similar all right.

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What kind of numbers do the Ancient Order of Hibernians have these days?

I doubt there is many at all if any the IRB is completely gone as well.

Seems to be an older generation that is the base membership of the orange order and they are finding it difficult to attract younger members these days.

Fratton Fred

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What kind of numbers do the Ancient Order of Hibernians have these days?

According to espn, they averaged 10,489 last season.

gobnaitolunacy

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What kind of numbers do the Ancient Order of Hibernians have these days?

They are pretty much a US based organisation now.
You know, the lads that don't like quaaares in the parade.

The OO are declining in numbers, but there's no shortage of their sportswear and hoodie clad 'fleg'-waving brethern.

[Deleted User]

Drying out? I didn't realise they had a problem with drink.

Buzz84

It can only be seen as a good thing.

Terry1985

AngeGal wrote: »

Hopefully. The death of an organisation founded upon bigotry is always welcome.

Like the Dublin taxi driving federation?

Arpa

Terry1985 wrote: »

Like the Dublin taxi driving federation?

Bit random and a bit of a generalisation.

martinedwards

in the early 70s we were on Holiday in Mallorca in June and met a lovely family who were OBVIOUSLY RC and from the Nationalst community. names like (I can't remember) Sean & Caoimhe McGuikin or such like from a very nationalist/republical area of Belfast.

For some reason my Dad decided to go to the belfast 12th July parade that year and in the Edenderry field, who did we bump into but the same folks.

because way back then, the orange order weren't seen as the biggoted organisation they are now.

Catholics went for the day out too.

now, the world has changed, and as has been said before, the drunken scabs who walk alongside the parades are the troublemakers.

99% of Orangemen are decent coves who feel strongly enough about thier British heritage to stand up and be counted.

but personally, as a British Ulster Prod, I abhor the whole thing, and deliberately get well offside for the 12th.

we've been on holiday in rance over the 12th for the last 5 years. this year we're a bit cash light, so we'll likely be away in the caravan. if not already in Dublin or Sligo, we will cross the border to get well away from it.

anncoates

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

I was talking to a fella this morning and he said there has been a massive decline in membership of the Orange Order over the last ten or so years.

Jaffa source for this?

griffdaddy

What about the Orange Organics? They were the best band going

Buzz84

martinedwards wrote: »

in the early 70s we were on Holiday in Mallorca in June and met a lovely family who were OBVIOUSLY RC and from the Nationalst community. names like (I can't remember) Sean & Caoimhe McGuikin or such like from a very nationalist/republical area of Belfast.

For some reason my Dad decided to go to the belfast 12th July parade that year and in the Edenderry field, who did we bump into but the same folks.

because way back then, the orange order weren't seen as the biggoted organisation they are now.

Catholics went for the day out too.

now, the world has changed, and as has been said before, the drunken scabs who walk alongside the parades are the troublemakers.

99% of Orangemen are decent coves who feel strongly enough about thier British heritage to stand up and be counted.

but personally, as a British Ulster Prod, I abhor the whole thing, and deliberately get well offside for the 12th.

we've been on holiday in rance over the 12th for the last 5 years. this year we're a bit cash light, so we'll likely be away in the caravan. if not already in Dublin or Sligo, we will cross the border to get well away from it.

That old jackanory . Yeah Catholics loved the orange order back in the day lol

99% are decent. Lovely misunderstood salt of the earth bigots.

ScumLord

If they're popularity is fading maybe they should change their name to the yellow order.

Jimmy Garlic

Buzz84 wrote: »

That old jackanory . Yeah Catholics loved the orange order back in the day lol

99% are decent. Lovely misunderstood salt of the earth bigots.

Personally speaking I know a couple that are decent. Just because they are OO members doesn't mean that they are foaming at the mouth bigots. That said, the organisation itself is bigoted and stuck in a time warp.

Nodin

martinedwards wrote: »

in the early 70s we were on Holiday in Mallorca in June and met a lovely family who were OBVIOUSLY RC and from the Nationalst community. names like (I can't remember) Sean & Caoimhe McGuikin or such like from a very nationalist/republical area of Belfast.

For some reason my Dad decided to go to the belfast 12th July parade that year and in the Edenderry field, who did we bump into but the same folks.

because way back then, the orange order weren't seen as the biggoted organisation they are now.
.............

On your planet, perhaps.

JD DABA

I put it down to the rise in internet usage.

Its so much easier to vent your fury at life at random people .

at wnkers like yourselves for example.

cletus van damme

i know I voted for the good Friday agreement under some assumption of peace and respect for both traditions.

Guess that's lost on some of the fools here

I am pie

The orange order membership will tail off over the years as less people attend church and less of it's members are in power in NI. Just like the new breed of SF politicians weren't personally involved in IRA activity, we'll see less and less unionist politicians involved in nonsense like Vanguard and the OO, Apprentice Boys etc.

All this 'the catholics used to love it' malarkey doesn't resonate with me. In a protestant area of north Belfast growing up in the 80s, all the catholic families in our fairly mixed neighbourhood and many of the protestant families all left town for the weekend. I certainly don't remember any cross community bonding as the OO and other oiks burnt the Irish flags and shouted No Surrender! ....maybe it was different out in the countryside.

Gosub

kowloon wrote: »

They need to make their parades fun. Antagonising the nationalists just isn't enough anymore. They need floats, costumes and the handing out of sweets.

They already have the funny costumes.

martinedwards

I am pie wrote: »

growing up in the 80s, .

yup, you're at least 10 years after my anecdote.

this was before all the Ulster says no stuff.....

as to town or country, there were areas of both that have always been inclusive and areas of both that have always been bigoted.

Nodin & Buzz84....

I didn't say ALL RC folk loved it, but there definitely were some who came along for a day out.

Obviously it wasn't on a Sunday so the swings wouldn't have been chained up.

Deedsie

What happens if July 12th falls on a Sunday?

Nodin

Deedsie wrote: »

What happens if July 12th falls on a Sunday?

No!