old hippy wrote: » Oh this is ridiculous. Tell us what the benefit it is, say, of you having children? Why would your being allowed reproduce be any better than them?
jasonbourne.cs wrote: » all of them ... simultaneously ... and it just happened to be beech weather right :rolleyes:
The King of Moo wrote: » Post of the day!? What the absolute f*ck!? [...] Most fascists would respect the intelligence of their potential followers to not immediately suggest ludicrously extreme actions such as mass enforced sterilisation, but then they never came across the great minds of After Hours.
SeanW wrote: » The OP might be on to a point: I don't think there's a "scumbag gene" per se, I think scumbags are more products of their environment. I.E. most people are decent because they were raised by their parents, others were just dragged up to become feral animals. It is right, therefore, to ask why someone should be allowed to have children when they clealry have no intention of raising them. I understand your concern. But most people think that rights come with responsibilities. For example you have the right to your freedom - but only as long as you respect the rights of others. Fail to do, e.g. by committing a crime against someone else, you lose your right to liberty. It's not an absolute. But if you think that the right to have children is an absolute, could you please comment on this story?http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056054027 Is it right that this man had 20 children, presumably never did any work in his life to support any of them, it's blindingly obvious he didn't raise any of them, yet he fathered child after child all of them on the dole, all of them in and out of court on a regular basis, with one of them at each sitting of the Sligo court? What impact did his version of family planning have on society? Would you be happy if each of his 20 scumbags spawned 20 scumbags each? After another generation you would have 400 scumbags drawing dole from the rest of society and committing crimes against members of said society as a matter of routine. How long do you think society would continue to function like that?
Coutinho 10 wrote: » After reading this thread for the last few days. I was in Dublin today and I swear all I saw was skangers everywhere! Every Luas stop had them but none were getting on the Luas, They were all over the board walks on the Liffey. They were outside every fast food place. They were sitting on every corner and on every bridge. All I could think off was World War Z and The Walking Dead but instead of Zombies we are been overrun by Skangers!! I ran for my life and I am glad to be down the country now where you only come across the odd skanger every now and then, But I must say that every now and then is getting more common. Maybe just maybe Zombies are Skangers!
Coutinho 10 wrote: » I was in Dublin today and I swear all I saw was skangers everywhere! [...] Maybe just maybe Zombies are Skangers!
The King of Moo wrote: » What crimes were they committing? I'm surprised I didn't hear about such an outbreak of crime on the news.
Coutinho 10 wrote: » Where did I say anything about anyboby committing a crime??
The King of Moo wrote: » How would you define a skanger?
pennypocket wrote: » Love the certainty of your logic. Such a beautiful mind. Your clarity of vision is wasted in the dregs of a forum such as boards. "How long do you think society would continue to function like that?" Not long Sean W if we don't do something drastic. It's not as if Tom Ward is an unique case in this country. Best we nip it in the bud now via mass sterilisation of the scumbags. Boards can have a poll on the selection criteria.
Coutinho 10 wrote: » How do you define sarcasm?
The King of Moo wrote: » How would you define a "skanger?"
Elmer Blooker wrote: » I have no idea where "moo" is but if you're in Dublin get on the DART over the weekend and you will quickly find out. The "skangers" are the vermin who will terrorise the decent people who want to enjoy a sunny day at the seaside with their kids. I wouldn't get on the DART this weekend for a million euro.
SeanW wrote: » Actually no; sterlisation is not necessarily the answer, there are a number of far less drastic things that could be done. I am merely suggesting that none of you liberal leftists have given any alternative. The fundamental problem is that these scumbags were not raised by their parents. Additionally, the law enforcement and welfare systems seem to enable people like the above to just spawn scumbag after scumbag with no fear of any adverse consequences. Consider a country I admire greatly: Japan. In that part of the world, saving face in society is a major goal in their culture. If a child/teenager does something bad, it reflects badly on the parents, who lose face in the eyes of their peers unless the parent is seen to offer a heartfelt apology for their errant young-uns. That system seems to work, and Japan is one of the safest countries in the world to live in (if not the safest) and people look out for each other a lot more there. I suggest therefore that the problem of people not raising their children is largely responsible for the problem of scumbaggery and wonder what the solution is. Place restrictions (such as good behaviour bonds) for welfare-lifers having children? Dock parents welfare for incidents of "anti-social behaviour" by their children? If they're not on welfare, could we have some element of criminal punishment parents of scummy 'children?' Could we somehow fundamentally alter our culture so that it's like Japan, where public safety and respect for your fellow citizen is "cool?" I have heard nothing from the PC left that they would consider any of these - so we just continue doing nothing while feral animals continue to make life miserable for decent people in all strata of society. Ergo, it makes sane people want to look for more severe options.
Elmer Blooker wrote: » Go to the forty foot tomorrow then and have a nice day.
Elmer Blooker wrote: » I have no idea where "moo" is but if you're in Dublin get on the DART over the weekend and you will quickly find out. The "skangers" are the vermin who will terrorise the decent people who want to enjoy a sunny day at the seaside with their kids. I wouldn't get on the DART this weekend for a million euro and there won't be a cop in sight as the "services" that our property taxes fund doesn't include policing.
Elmer Blooker wrote: » ok then, people not vermin - sorry I would challenge any of you to go to the forty foot tomorrow and stay for more than five minutes.
pennypocket wrote: » "Vermin". Great. The old language of hate resurrects itself (aka early modern, even medieval antisemitism - push them down the wells). Seriously Elmer Blooker, check yourself, do it regularly and then do it again. Don't call other human beings vermin and enter the twenty-first century.
pennypocket wrote: » Ha. Spoken like a person who has never been to Japan.
Of course you don't believe in forced sterilisation, that would be a stupid person. But yet, your language betrays you: 'feral animal', 'spawn scumbag after scumbag' 'severe options', 'scummy children'.
Maybe, perhaps, just, maybe, the atomisation of Irish society - culture, community, solidarity, has a lot more to do with the choices we make in the first place (i.e. we are an economy first, not a society). You cannot blame a canary for dying in a poisonous mine nor can you disadvantage a child for the circumstances of their birth.
SeanW wrote: » Actually no; sterlisation is not necessarily the answer, there are a number of far less drastic things that could be done.
pennypocket wrote: » *Sterilisation* (or with a z for americanized spelling). How about I head a campaign to sterilise all first-born males who cannot spell properly and didn't get their English grammar? (Aka all the fascists in this thread). I shall eat, shoot and leave.
