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Is rape always rape? Are men always to blame?

TheLastMohican

Has the pendulum swung too far? Is dressing provocatively giving the wrong message?

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/nick-ross-triggers-outrage-with-comments-on-rape-29297621.html

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SB2013

Seanafitz wrote: »

This entire post disgusts me ... Shame on you OP .. Rape is not a topic for debate .. If a man has sex with a woman and she has expressed her opinion that she does not want to ? That's rape ... If a man has sex with a woman who is in such a bad state that she is unable to say yes or no .. The man is taking advantage so it's rape ... I agree with a post before this ... Rape is only not rape when it's not rape .. I'm actually sick that this thread has been allowed ... How can you question whether its rape or not??

What if both of them are in such a bad state?

Seanafitz

TheLastMohican wrote: »

Has the pendulum swung too far? Is dressing provocatively giving the wrong message?

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/nick-ross-triggers-outrage-with-comments-on-rape-29297621.html

This entire post disgusts me ... Shame on you OP .. Rape is not a topic for debate .. If a man has sex with a woman and she has expressed her opinion that she does not want to ? That's rape ... If a man has sex with a woman who is in such a bad state that she is unable to say yes or no .. The man is taking advantage so it's rape ... I agree with a post before this ... Rape is only not rape when it's not rape .. I'm actually sick that this thread has been allowed ... How can you question whether its rape or not??

jaffacakesyum

NiallSparky wrote: »

Yeah, absolutely. It's still 100% the fault of the perpetrator. It would be silly for a bank to put themselves in that situation though, just like it would be silly for a person to not take appropriate precautions against being raped.

More victim blaming. So I shouldn't be allowed to walk down the street in a dress or a skirt? Do I deserve to be raped because I didn't take "all appropriate precautions"?

Here's a suggestion - men and women be allowed wear whatever they want and men (and sometimes women) just stop raping people, hmm?

Emz93

NiallSparky wrote: »

just like it would be silly for a person to not take appropriate precautions against being raped.

Such as?

keelanj69

What no one seems to understand is that the body has ways of shutting down in cases of illegitimate rape. Or is it legitimate rape? I cant remember, the one where yur wan can't get pregnant.

Amirani

The Backwards Man wrote: »

If I go into the bank tomorrow and there is a bag of money on the floor, I still know it is wrong to take it. Simple as.

Yeah, absolutely. It's still 100% the fault of the perpetrator. It would be silly for a bank to put themselves in that situation though, just like it would be silly for a person to not take appropriate precautions against being raped.

jaffacakesyum

TheLastMohican wrote: »

Has the pendulum swung too far? Is dressing provocatively giving the wrong message?

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/nick-ross-triggers-outrage-with-comments-on-rape-29297621.html[/QUOTE]

Sad thing is, you're probably not even trolling.

Pherekydes

Not when it's legitimate rape.

The Backwards Man

If I go into the bank tomorrow and there is a bag of money on the floor, I still know it is wrong to take it. Simple as.

fred funk }{

Mother of fooking god, not another rape thread.

kingcobra

The only time rape is not rape is when it is not rape.

[Deleted User]

Really OP? Is this the best idea for a thread you could come up with?

No? Or did you really mean yes?

SB2013

There are definitely inequalities in the law and in attitudes too but I don't think you can go writing of rapes as misunderstandings.

humbert

If I had to guess I'd say there was some publicity seeking trolling going on.

MickFleetwood

delete

Nodin

TheLastMohican wrote: »

Has the pendulum swung too far? Is dressing provocatively giving the wrong message?

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/nick-ross-triggers-outrage-with-comments-on-rape-29297621.html

Medieval bollocks.

Nabber

No means no. Don't stop and it's rape.

Quite simple if you ask me.