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Horrid story

snowgal

This is an awful awful story from DM today. Seriously the poor girl, what a way to die. Ive never heard of this before but seeminlgy has been common over past few years.

A British backpacker has died after drinking poisoned alcohol whilst trekking in the Indonesian jungle.
Cheznye Emmons, from Great Wakering, Essex, fell ill after drinking from a bottle labelled 'gin' that later turned out to be filled with deadly methanol.
The 23-year-old had been travelling across south Asia with her boyfriend Joe Cook, 21, and a male friend the couple had met on their travels when they bought the tainted alcohol from a local shop in Indonesia.

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biko

Don't drink the foreign poitin.

[Deleted User]

first problem its that your reading the daily fail

Hoop66

"Cheznye" and she has sisters called Bianca & Measha?

She's better off out of it.

kylith

While I feel bad for the people who've died, not drinking bathtub gin is a pretty standard bit of common sense.

[Deleted User]

Don't drink anything if the caps been tampered with.

Ella

biko wrote: »

Don't drink the foreign poitin.

It was marked Gin not some local drink.

frag420

was the gin horrid too?

SteelyDanJalapeno

Is that copied straight from a news peace? the construction of the text is awful!

Meritocracy Wins

Poor girl. RIP.

Fr_Dougal

Didn't a boards mod pass away from drinking contaminated alcohol over in Indonesia too?

IM0

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Didn't a boards mod pass away from drinking contaminated alcohol over in Indonesia too?

well it was food poisoning I think?
you mean rozabeez right?

Surveyor11

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Is that copied straight from a news peace? the construction of the text is awful!

So is your grammar.:D

Ella

IM0 wrote: »

well it was food poisoning I think?
you mean rozabeez right?

Yeah i thought that's what she passed away from too.

Hoop66

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Is that copied straight from a news peace? the construction of the text is awful!

Oh, the ironing!

Sofaspud

IM0 wrote: »

well it was food poisoning I think?
you mean rozabeez right?

It was the same thing, a pub was serving apparently home-brewed spirits. The results of the autopsy were "inconclusive" due to the spirits containing the same chemicals used in embalming but there's very little doubt of that being the cause.

hatrickpatrick

Question: How to professional distillers make sure there's no methanol in the spirits they distill?
I'm assuming either it evaporates at a different temperature to ethanol, or that one is more dense and sinks to the bottom to make it easier to separate?

Mr Benevolent

Ella wrote: »

Yeah i thought that's what she passed away from too.

It was methanol poisoning.

Question: How to professional distillers make sure there's no methanol in the spirits they distill?
I'm assuming either it evaporates at a different temperature to ethanol, or that one is more dense and sinks to the bottom to make it easier to separate?

Methanol is prevalent in the first and last stages of distilling. Usually a certain % of the first and last of the batch is discarded. The lesson is not to drink spirits in countries with dubious distilling reputations. Beer and wine would be ok.

pablohoney87

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Question: How to professional distillers make sure there's no methanol in the spirits they distill?
I'm assuming either it evaporates at a different temperature to ethanol, or that one is more dense and sinks to the bottom to make it easier to separate?

Because methanol is not a product of the fermentation process of ethanol.

If you were to distill methanol off it is also quite easy. You distill it like ethanol. You monitor the temperature of the vapour. It should be 64.37 degreees. Once the vapour temperature is above that you no longer have methanol present.

El Guapo!

pablohoney87 wrote: »

Because methanol is not a product of the fermentation process of ethanol.

If you were to distill methanol off it is also quite easy. You distill it like ethanol. You monitor the temperature of the vapour. It should be 64.37 degreees. Once the vapour temperature is above that you no longer have methanol present.

Spoken like a true psychopathic killer.
:pac:

pablohoney87

El Guapo! wrote: »

Spoken like a true psychopathic killer.
:pac:

Not far off.

Chemical Engineer:cool:

El Guapo!

pablohoney87 wrote: »

Chemical Engineer:cool:

Tomayto
Tomato!

orestes

There was such a problem with something like this in the Czech Republic last year that they had to ban all spirits over 20% alcohol in the entire country for a few weeks after about 30 people died and others were hospitalised, some of the people who survived were left blind. It wasn't bootleg crap being sold under the counter, it was being sold to distributors as legitimate product and was being sold in off-licences, bars and restaurants.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19738765

frank reynolds

sad story.

i dont think i would risk drinking booze in such a strict muslim country though for MANY reasons, and this being one of them.

it's an illegal substance, for the most part, in places like this, which means there are no PROPER channels monitoring the production or sale of alcohol products which means there is more window of opportunity to make a quick buck by filling it with all sorts of sh!te.

example being the illegal cigarettes you can get, and some of them are filled with fibreglass and other bogey ingredients.

Capt'n Midnight

frank reynolds wrote: »

example being the illegal cigarettes you can get, and some of them are filled with fibreglass and other bogey ingredients.

Instead of the usual carcinogens :eek:

You don't need to go abroad to find fake alcohol, check the labels if buying from somewhere you can't sue

goose2005

frank reynolds wrote: »

sad story.

i dont think i would risk drinking booze in such a strict muslim country though for MANY reasons, and this being one of them.

it's an illegal substance, for the most part, in places like this, which means there are no PROPER channels monitoring the production or sale of alcohol products which means there is more window of opportunity to make a quick buck by filling it with all sorts of sh!te.

example being the illegal cigarettes you can get, and some of them are filled with fibreglass and other bogey ingredients.

Alcohol is legal in Indonesia, it's just that the taxes are high so shops adulterate it to make money