Degag wrote: » Question: Why do people think Jaime saved Brienne? He has as such saved her twice, from being raped and being killed by the bear. Don't seem to remember her saving him from anything. For the first 2 seasons he didn't show any morals, is it a new morality from having his hand chopped off or just some kind of respect he has for her?
pixelburp wrote: » Compare that with Theon, where he's apparently getting Varys'ed & nobody gives a damn
longhalloween wrote: » Jaime is a knight, so I presume it's his job to help the helpless. He killed the mad king to save the city, knowing how people would look down on him after it.
golfball37 wrote: » Jaime gets an awful lot of bad press for the Bran incident but from what I can recall it he was all on for letting the boy be and it was his sister who insisted on Bran being pushed.
Rosy Posy wrote: » He still did the pushing. Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely warming to Jaime and can see his good points coming through but I was just using the Bran incident to refute the previous posters assertion that Jaime went back for Brienne because he was a knight and honour bound to protect the weak and helpless. I think that he went back because he is developing feelings for Brienne. She is pretty much the only person who has seen him in his fallen mutilated state and shown him respect and compassion. I don't think that he went back purely because it was the right thing to do- his conduct towards Bran shows that if it comes between the honourable thing and what serves him and his family best he still chooses to serve his own interests. Don't forget that in slaying the Mad King he was saving the life of his father, his family and himself as well as the lives of the rest of the population of Kings Landing.
krudler wrote: » was anyone else really hoping Jaime would do a 300 style kick to yer man and send him bear bound :pac:
Pepe LeFrits wrote: » I wonder if one watched the show again from the beginning, having seen Jaime's development this season, would one's perspective be any different? Feels like a good time to post this great scene! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3kUmm0yenY
pixelburp wrote: » Pretty much; but then given this show refuses to indulge in any kind of audience wish-fulfillment, I didn't expect it to happen; mind you, I guess having turned over a new leaf Jaime no longer feels the need to push people off tall ledges :pac:
krudler wrote: » Can you edit that to remove my quote? I thought the guy who took Jaime's hand was someone else so namedropped a book character by mistake, my bad
Rosy Posy wrote: » I care! I find the Theon torturing scenes stomach churning and upsetting, especially the psychological abuse that's going with them. I can't help but wonder if they're trying to break Theon down to build him up again as some kind of pawn, either that or the sadistic horn blower is pure evil. What makes his plight less comment worthy is that we know he's already condemned by Robb Stark and that he's already given up all his information. I really hope they stop torturing him soon and progress his storyline.
iamanengine wrote: » What's this about Tyrion's wife? I can't remember a thing about that, or I've just completely forgotten!
pixelburp wrote: » Perhaps, but like everything else there has to be some form of context or narrative to a characters suffering / struggle, otherwise it's just pointless filler - or in the case of it being torture, sadistic even. I think the comparison with Jaime is entirely apt because the show deliberately softened the character so that the dismemberment would be that more shocking to the audience; it made narrative sense too because clearly it'll have to be a watershed moment for the man (how couldn't it?) that'll continue his change. With Theon though, he has been written as such an unlikeable, odious, and pathetic character, his constant torture is just tedious & seems like a delaying of the inevitable. I'm sure we'll find out the why, maybe even the who (there's a very small list of possibilities, barring an 11th hour surprise), but at this stage it's hard to see how any payoff will make up for the succession of dull scenes. Mind you, maybe I'm just completely desensitized by years of violent cinema & TV. Tbh, I've got so used to the OTT violence in Game of Thrones, a little castration seems humdrum in comparison. I don't think it's that in all honesty, because I was still upset when I saw Roz strung by Joffrey
Rosy Posy wrote: » As an aside, in this scene Robert talks about killing one of the Tarley family who later surrendered. Isn't that Sam's family name (fat lad from the Nights Watch). Love all the tiny connections in this show!
Lemlin wrote: » Have started watching season 1 again. It's actually refreshing to watch episodes where the action isn't jumping so much. I'd like to see a character cull. Keep Arya, Dany, the Lannisters and maybe Jon Snow. The rest I'm finding hugely boring. Robb is the biggest letdown. Another pointless part in this episode, as was Bran's and Theon's. That said, I would have had hopes for Dany's demise last year so hopefully some of the tedious storylines can pick up.
krudler wrote: » Yeah Varys hasn't gotten nearly enough screentime this season, he was such a big part of the last one and he's one of the best characters
Gbear wrote: » He's utterly brilliant. Had a gander at S2 Ep10 and he has a scene with Roz. There's nothing special about the scene but he makes it brilliant.
