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The Beatles.

DEFTLEFTHAND

I know we can't have music or sport in Ah's but I feel the Beatles had a cultural impact on this island.

What's you're opinion of them? I was brought up on Beatles so I'm some what biased, my father was and is still a big fan, they obviously played off the Everly Brothers and Buddy Holly, the genesis of pop music, but I feel at the same time that they created something very unique. Even today you can hear their influence, the verse, bridge, chorus.

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DEFTLEFTHAND

pmcmahon wrote: »

The yardbirds,Cream,Led Zeppelin,Hendrix,Bob dylan,The who,The velvet underground,the allman brothers,the byrds,john coltrane,john mayalls bluesbreakers,simon and garfunkel.You could go on and on.

The Who in fairness came big when the Beatles we're pulling back and preparing for dismantlement, :pac:. The 70s was about a heavier sound, everything was heavier, Keith Moon suffered terribly in this decade of excess. Moonie was never going to live to an old age but the extremes of the 70s certainly brought on his demise quicker. He died in the same room as Momma Cass in 78 in London, he bought the property after she died.

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Wibbs wrote: »

From the song Help to Tomorrow never knows is just six months.

Woah.

Wibbs

pmcmahon wrote: »

The yardbirds,Cream,Led Zeppelin,Hendrix,Bob dylan,The who,The velvet underground,the allman brothers,the byrds,john coltrane,john mayalls bluesbreakers,simon and garfunkel.You could go on and on.

You're kidding surely? Cream the allman brothers, the byrds, john coltrane, john mayalls bluesbreakers? as influential as the Beatles? eh wut? Of the rest Hendrix, Dylan, S&G and especially Zep were bloody influential artists, but even they would snigger if you told them they were as influential as the Beatles. Paul Simon has said of the list of the top 20th century songwriters "I'd put Gershwin, Berlin and Hank Williams. I'd probably put Paul McCartney in there too". Robert Plant is and was a huge Beatles fan. Dylan has often spoken of the quality of John, Paul and Georges songwriting.

Better? That's of course down to personal taste, but objectively speaking a band like Bluesbreakers wouldn't get within an asses roar of the depth and scope of songwriting of a band like the Beatles. And history will show that. It already has.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Eric Clapton was another huge Beatles fan, so much so that he actually had an affair with George Harrison's wife Patty Boyd, ended up marrying her too. Even through that they still remained close pals, and wrote 'Badge' together, a song which I'm sure many of you have heard before.

uncle_sam_ie

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Eric Clapton was another huge Beatles fan, so much so that he actually had an affair with George Harrison's wife Patty Boyd, ended up marrying her too. Even through that they still remained close pals, and wrote 'Badge' together, a song which I'm sure many of you have heard before.

Yeah, well and John Lennon was huge fan of Bob Dylan and that had a big influence on his music.

Wibbs

Melina Thankful Trench wrote: »

Woah.

Sorry I got that wrong, it was exactly 12 months apart, but still mad alright. It was the first track recorded for Revolver. Strawberry fields forever and Penny Lane were the first songs knocked out for Sgt Pepper, but their contract at the time demanded a single so they released them. their contract also stipulated that singles couldn't be on non film soundtrack albums, so that's why those two songs weren't on the finished album.

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Eric Clapton was another huge Beatles fan, so much so that he actually had an affair with George Harrison's wife Patty Boyd, ended up marrying her too. Even through that they still remained close pals, and wrote 'Badge' together, a song which I'm sure many of you have heard before.

Yea real hippie stuff alright

and he got to play lead on a Beatles song.

Saganist

They were the greatest band ever, bar none.

Cienciano

pmcmahon wrote: »

The yardbirds,Cream,Led Zeppelin,Hendrix,Bob dylan,The who,The velvet underground,the allman brothers,the byrds,john coltrane,john mayalls bluesbreakers,simon and garfunkel.You could go on and on.

Who was better is subjective, but to try and argue that the yardbirds, cream, the allman brothers, john mayalls bluesbreakers or the byrds were "better" than the beatles, it makes me smile :pac:
Zeppelin were good, but their sound didn't change much and they were more of a 70's band than a 60's. The Who were good too, but most of their albums were filler cráp with 1 or 2 decent songs inbetween. Simon and Garfunkel were decent enough, but very boring.
As I said, subjective, depends on who you like yourself. My niece thought the spice girls were better

Bipolar Joe

Watching people start raging when they discover someone doesn't like The Beatles is funny.

mathepac

KungPao wrote: »

... I think that was the Monkees.

Even the Monkees started out playing some instruments and they sang without the need for AutoTune, which puts them several levels above First Erection musically.

The Beatles were the greatest ever with more firsts, more innovation and more influence on popular music that any other band ever, they were true pioneers, genuinely talented.

In April 1964 The Beatles had the top 5 places in the Billboard Hit Parade in the US, thge first time this ever happened.

"World Without Love", which Paul McCartney wrote at age 16, recorded by Peter & Gordon, knocked "Can't Buy Me Love" from No 1 in the UK charts.

During the 60's, 21 songs written by Lennon & McCartney, but not recorded by the The Beatles entered various charts around the world for 12 different recording artists.

Sgt Peppers was the first gate-fold album cover ever produced and was the first to feature all the lyrics on the cover. It was also the most expensive album cover ever produced for a long, long time. Typically a record company spent £50/£100 on the art-work for a new album. Sgt Pepper's cover cost £2,750 odd to produce. The fact that the record company swallowed the cost was a measure of The Beatles importance to them.

When The Beatles started Apple Corp, the first multimedia company in the world (music, films, cartoon, artwork, clothing, furniture, records, events, etc.) Paul McCartney recorded a 12-track album on which he played every single note on single instrument used and sang all the vocals. Apple Corp signed a new Band called Bad Finger and McCartney gave them the album to re-record, stipulating that they couldn't change any of his arrangements. The album went to no 5 in the UK and their first single "Come And Get It", went to number 1.

darced

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The Backwards Man

Are we talking about songwriters or performers?

If we're talking about performers then I'd put people like Dean Martin and Doris Day way ahead of the Beatles in terms of cultural impact.

Irish Guitarist

Not liking their music is one thing, but to call them bland or to compare them to some crappy boy band is another. These people think they're being unique but they just end up sounding like they know nothing about music.

Just look at the instruments they played on Strawberry Fields Forever. How many (non Indian) bands used a swarmandal before The Beatles? For that matter who even knew what a swarmandal was?

They also recorded on what was by todays standards primitive recording equipment and managed to make music that sounds more complex than the majority of music that's being created today.

Even their early music is more complicated than it seems. It may sound simple but anyone who ever attempts to play those songs on guitar will most likely find at least one chord they can barely play.

DEFTLEFTHAND

I never thought that I'd see someone compare four Fcuking Flakes to the Beatles. We went wrong somewhere.

uncle_sam_ie

mathepac wrote: »

The Beatles were the greatest ever with more firsts, more innovation and more influence on popular music that any other band ever, they were true pioneers, genuinely talented.

I like the Beatles but, "more influence on popular music that any other band ever", "true pioneers".
Give me a break. If I had to pick someone that changed the course of music the likes of Miles Davis would probably be at the top of the list not the Beatles.

mathepac

One of the greatest love-songs ever written, recorded by possibly 160 different artists like Frank Sinatra, James Brown, Bob Dylan, Ray Charles was written by one of the perceptually "less talented" Beatles. George Harrison's beautifully crafted song has been in the pop charts, the C&W and many other charts in the decades since its release late in 1969. It topped the charts on both sides of the Atlantic and is the only Beatles' song I know that was released as a single after appearing on an album. They normally gave a bonus on the albums of the single or two with 8 or 9 new songs. This song was so good they reversed the trend.

A Primal Nut

In the first few they were a bit One Direction-y. I Wanna Hold Your Hand - wtf? Using the same Rock N' Roll riff in all their songs.

However the way they re-invented themselves from 1965 on is amazing. Can't think of any band who wrote so many great songs in such a short period of time.

darced

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losthorizon

I always preferred (are you sitting comfortably)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CqwECqxGf4

Went over to Nottingham about 6 years ago to see them live and they were still great although Ray Thomas and Michael Pinder had left.

The Byrds are brilliant as well because they just had so many differnt styles from Rock, pop, psychedelic, country, folk and even jazz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h80l4XIPJC4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgfiN0rbdpI

But, I have to say the Beatles produced some of the greatest albums ever and Rubber Soul has to be one of the best Folk Rock albums I have ever heard.

mathepac

uncle_sam_ie wrote: »

... Give me a break. If I had to pick someone that changed the course of music the likes of Miles Davis would probably be at the top of the list not the Beatles.

Sure I'll give you a break.

The Beatles' influence transcended music and changed the 20th century culturally due to their multifarious influences on dress, hair, marketing, life-styles, etc. They were the first popular musicians to be interviewed about current events, religion etc rather than their brand of chewing gum or hair-oil.

Bands like The Byrds made their breakthroughs by "Beatle-ising" Bob Dylan songs and the BeachBoys used that same jangly 12-string guitar sound behind their tight vocals after George was presented with a 12-string Epiphone by the manufacturers. Dylan himself was quoted as saying "be Beatlised or be left behind".

uncle_sam_ie

The Beatles may have changed the course of history when it comes to guys with longer hair but, they have nothing when it comes to side burns. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG0oBPtyNb0

Supraman

Some bizarre opinions here . The beatles we're musical pioneers . In terms of songwriting and even instruments they introduced to a more mainstream audience . Granted not every song is a bona fide classic but there is a lot of undeniable gems in their repertoire .

I'm 29 years of age , was only listening to a bit of Revolver this morning . People comparing one direction to the beatles seems insane . Will they be considered influential for bands for years to come . Their music won't be remembered in a couple of years .

The beatles however are musical icons that will be remembered for a very long time indeed .

Mr. CooL ICE

Anyone who cannot acknowledge the impact The Beatles had on modern music, or even compares them to One Direction, really has no idea about music. Or lives under a bridge.

nungesser

Tony Sheridan played with the Beatles in the early days and was a big influence on the band as they started out. Interesting Irish connection with him was after seeing the events of Bloody Sunday he renounced his British nationality and became an Irish citizen

crockholm

Yeah.......well *N Sync were better dancers than the beatles and Backstreet Boys were cuter,nick was sooooooo dreamy.
That about puts them on a par with Boyzone so.

mitosis

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

They used to write non sensical lyrics and laugh when some college professor tried to interpretate them, take I Am the Walrus for instance.

They experimented with different sounds and styles, that's where they stood out for me, they evolved as a band over time.

Eh, no thanks. You can keep it.

TheBza

The Kinks are better than The Beatles.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Get outa here.. *Italian accent..

mitosis

mathepac wrote: »

Sure I'll give you a break.

The Beatles' influence transcended music and changed the 20th century culturally due to their multifarious influences on dress, hair, marketing, life-styles, etc. They were the first popular musicians to be interviewed about current events, religion etc rather than their brand of chewing gum or hair-oil.

Bands like The Byrds made their breakthroughs by "Beatle-ising" Bob Dylan songs and the BeachBoys used that same jangly 12-string guitar sound behind their tight vocals after George was presented with a 12-string Epiphone by the manufacturers. Dylan himself was quoted as saying "be Beatlised or be left behind".

Rickenbacker 360.

Their influence is overplayed. If it wasn't them it'd have been somebody else. It was just the times they lived in. Most of their styles came from Parisian café culture anyhow.

mitosis

LordChessington wrote: »

Anyone who cannot acknowledge the impact The Beatles had on modern music, or even compares them to One Direction, really has no idea about music. Or lives under a bridge.

Or has an opinion that differs from yours. Modern music without doubt has been influenced by the Beatles, but not in isolation, and not without being influenced by the same musicians the Beatles were influenced by.