mayobumblebee wrote: » Was in hospital today, had an appointment but while waiting a man wearing a h.s.e badge
jaffacakesyum wrote: » I know this is a Catholic country, but not everyone is Catholic and not everyone is even religious.
Prodigious wrote: » So what you're asking is if people having a problem with the sick being comforted?
jaffacakesyum wrote: » Yeah I find it odd. I think a service should certainly be allowed for, and anyone who wishes to receive communion should certainly be accommodated. It's great that a service exists. But I think it's a bit inappropriate because my impression is that the person goes around asking every patient in the room without knowing their religious status. I know this is a Catholic country, but not everyone is Catholic and not everyone is even religious.
mayobumblebee wrote: » they say that the religion has nothing to do with state run bodies
mayobumblebee wrote: » Was in hospital today, had an appointment but while waiting a man wearing a h.s.e badge and in normal clothes walked around the waiting room asking everyone why they were in and then offered to say a prayer for them. i have heard of patients also receiving communion and you can also request a priest. do they only cater to the catholic religion ? anyone find this odd besides me? is this just some hospitals i am a bit surprised to be honest they say that the religion has nothing to do with state run bodies but this didnt seem the case today
mayobumblebee wrote: » he was probably just on a visit pass in his own time
discus wrote: » And most people of a different religion would simply say no thanks. Although I'm RCC, I would have nothing but admiration for anyone of any religion (or even godless bastards athiest) who took time out to comfort sick or distressed people in a hospital.
Odysseus wrote: » How is the Chaplin to know what religion a person is without asking? AFAIK all hospitals have a RC chaplin, but there is a facility to get a representative of all the religions inif a patient requests it. However, no staff member would be able to comment on a patients religious status as far as I understand it inanyway.
carpejugulum wrote: » You have to get them when they are desperate and vulnerable is their motto.
jaffacakesyum wrote: » Again, my view is it's no big deal the way it is, but I just think it's a little inappropriate. You don't see Jewish rabbis going around offering to perform some Hebrew cereominies :pac: Of Muslim prayers! Again, obviously because this is a Catholic country.
Prodigious wrote: » No, nowhere in any of the countless pieces of Christian literature is it written "You have to get them when they are desperate and vulnerable"
jaffacakesyum wrote: » Absolutely, as would I. They seem like lovely people anyway, I remember one lady in particular, always a smile on her face. I have no issues with people of the Church offering comfort to patients if they deem it to be of comfort. I just think it's a bit odd to offer it to everybody. I wouldn't like somebody walking up to me and offering to say a prayer, as I'm not religious. I'd just say "no thanks" politely, no harm done, but I'd still prefer if people didn't assume I believe in that, or that I'm Catholic. Also, in one ward I worked in the lady asked everybody in the ward every time she was there regardless (probably a bit hard to remember who usually says yes and who doesn't, I'd imagine!) so I wouldn't like to be kept asking to say prayers if I was an inpatient for a while. There are a few alternative options off the top of my head, but would result in more admin/staff work, so I wouldn't suggest that. Again, my view is it's no big deal the way it is, but I just think it's a little inappropriate. You don't see Jewish rabbis going around offering to perform some Hebrew cereominies :pac: Of Muslim prayers! Again, obviously because this is a Catholic country.
gctest50 wrote: » The followers don't follow what is written anyway ?
Custardpi wrote: » Can't see too much of an issue with this. As part of my duties as Satanic High Priest for my area I regularly walk around my local hospital asking patients if they'd like me to sacrifice a virgin on their behalf. No complaints to date so I reckon the mock cannibalism ceremony offered by the Catholics should be ok too.
Prodigious wrote: » They are offering to say a prayer for them in the chapel, not to say mass in the ward.
jaffacakesyum wrote: » I wouldn't like somebody walking up to me and offering to say a prayer, as I'm not religious. I'd just say "no thanks" politely, no harm done, but I'd still prefer if people didn't assume I believe in that, or that I'm Catholic.
Odysseus wrote: » But it is also the chaplins job to to arrange for either of those religious figures are required to perform one of those cereromies. I would have a bigger issue with staff giving me personal details to non-medical staff, but that just me.
MagicMarker wrote: » Who says they're being comforted? A randomer approaching me in hospital asking me why I'm there and if I want to say a prayer is nothing but an annoyance.
jaffacakesyum wrote: » To be honest I'd prefer on admission to state my preference that no religious body offer me communion/prayers while I'm lying in bed watching telly :pac: Again, each to their own. Also to the other poster - forgot to quote - my point was that these people (in the hospitals I've been in anyway) don't go around up to the wards - there are religious services available, and I'm sure somebody may be sent up to the wards by request, but it is only the Catholic workers that go around to each ward to each bed to ask if they'd like to receive communion or say prayers. Just in my experience though. And again, understandable, as if a Muslim minister went around asking everybody he'd probably only find a handful of Muslim patients :pac:
Fox_In_Socks wrote: » What happens if the only virgin you can sacrifice is the sick person you are talking to in hospital?