true wrote: » because there are 400,000 unemployed, hundreds of thousands are emigrating or have emigrated. In addition, there are countless self-employed just hanging in there making f*** all money but who cannot get the dole as their partner is working or they have a (partially paid for ) house.....thus keeping the unemployment figures down. Average public sector salary is 49k a year. You may be lucky enough to work in a career where you "don't understand why anyone would go looking for a job in the Civil Service anymore", but that says more about you and your profession than about anything else.
true wrote: » the person who made the claim is a professional, and no, the other professionals in the public sector who I know do or have done nixers were relatively well off, and did not need to do it in order to put food on the table lol.
true wrote: » So you "double job". You already have a highly paid public sector job, and you are so greedy you take private sector work as well because of the low hours you work in the public sector. ( avg 32 hours per week ) thats immoral as you are doing a private sector worker out of work - many of whom are unemployed and struggling to keep their kids fed / mortgage paid. Shame on you.
Paulzx wrote: » It's good to know you have an in depth knowledege of all your friends household budgets
Teamshadowclan wrote: » Do you not stop to consider that maybe the reason there is double jobbing in some sections of the public sector is because, despite your assertions, the wages aren't all that great and some people NEED to do the second jobs in order to "feed the kids"?
true wrote: » I would find that difficult to believe, given that public sector wages are statistically nearly double per hour that in the private sector. Ash any one in the private sector, from cleaner to security personnell to admin staff to architect what they earn compared to their counterparts in the public sector - that is, if they still have a job at all... So you "double job". You already have a highly paid public sector job, and you are so greedy you take private sector work as well because of the low hours you work in the public sector. ( avg 32 hours per week )thats immoral as you are doing a private sector worker out of work - many of whom are unemployed and struggling to keep their kids fed / mortgage paid. Shame on you.
true wrote: » nobody claimed you were immoral for working. However, you have a full time public sector job. You also claim you do a work after hours in the private sector. I also know public sector workers who have full time jobs and who do "nixers", but none of them pay tax. Some do it by "grinds" , some have earned money doing house drawings, site checking, quantity surveying, sports teaching etc. People who have the benefit of well paid public sector jobs and who then "double job" by doing nixers are doing some of those who would otherwise be employed a disservice. There are hundreds of thousands of unemployed who would love one job, not 2 like you. Maybe if you had a few kids to feed and not even one job then you would understand.
Madam_X wrote: » Prove that you wouldn't do the same, and you might be taken seriously.
Madam_X wrote: » Prove that you wouldn't do the same, and you might be taken seriously. I know for a fact btw that there are engineers in the private sector earning more than their counterparts in the public sector. To pretend this isn't true is just axe-grinding.
true wrote: » If I was earning 80k a year in a nice secure, pensionable public sector job I would not do nixers. I know too many unemployed engineers , architects, quantity surveyors who are mates and who would be glad of a few crumbs from the table.
Jawgap wrote: » ................ The extra money is to buy all those 2nd & 3rd homes his estate agent friends have been selling to public servants, especially teachers it seems.
true wrote: » Kenny is just getting fed up at public service workers, just as the troika and nearly everyone else is. They are among the highest paid public sector workers in the world at an average of 49k a year, and have a shorter working week and statistically much more sickies than the private sector, and golden pensions, so Kenny is right for once.
true wrote: » don't need to have, its obvious from what they say and from their lifestyle. not rocket science.
Odysseus wrote: » What has 80k got to do with anything here?
true wrote: » It reminds me of the story of the german ambassador about 5 years ago telling the story of how the irish consultants thought 200k was "micky mouse money", while consultants in germany earned half that.
KDII wrote: » I can't formulate a reply sarcastic enough for this thread. I'm one of graduate nurses who the government tried to sell a €22,000 per year salary to. That's a long way from your ps average.
Boombastic wrote: » €22,000 + Bonuses, don't forget..they add up to about €5000 IIRC
KDII wrote: » Not quite a €5,000 bonus.. You get extra pay for nights and weekends depending on clinical area worked.
true wrote: » actually here it is now. Some years ago during the boom the German ambassador was openly critical of Irish public sector pay - he was proved right. Interesting reading with the benefit of hindsight. You laughed at him then, but he was proved right. If only we listened.... http://www.independent.ie ]
true wrote: » I am sympathetic to your situation. The reason you are paid so little is because others in the public service - who were in before you - insist on being paid so much.
