MadsL wrote: » Just a thought, but is OK to call Eire "Southern Ireland" as like a translation :pac:
MadsL wrote: » Two years. She has tried and tried. All the documentation that the school have is in her "translated" name. I suspect this may cause future problems with emigration. Her passport also has an additional surname.
HondaSami wrote: » Who is trolling his own thread now?
DyldeBrill wrote: » My Irish secondary school teachers always called me by my name "Dylan", which was graaaand! I remember going to the Gaeltacht though when I was in 1st or 2nd year and teachers of the Gaeltacht started calling me Dilliúin....I did not like this at all at all. Love the Irish language but can't help hate when teachers go out of their way to make up some bullshít name, just so they can add a Hint of Gaeilge to it. But OP, if it is her correct Irish name, then there's really no arguing with it.Like the others said, you did send her to a Gaelscoil.
Seachmall wrote: » Her name is English. There may be a common Irish version of it but that's not her name. Calling someone named John "Sean" is just as incorrect as calling someone named Bláthín "Flower". It doesn't matter how common the name "Sean" is because that's not their name.
MadsL wrote: » Green card is a lot different to a visa to visit. Ever applied? They do a lot of digging. I'd heard that alright. Wasn't sure if the registration was done by the pupil or the school.
MadsL wrote: » I have attended parent teacher meetings where despite me apologising for not speaking Irish, one teacher continued in Irish until I stopped again, apologised repeated that I didn't speak Irish.
MadsL wrote: » Is there a book I can look it up in? I don't remember her having an Irish name.
Marcusm wrote: » The equivalent of Bláthín would be Flora or Fleur; if you're going to cross compare, at least get that bit closer to reality.
Seaneh wrote: » A green card is just a permenant resident Visa, they do background checks like criminal records, educational level and awards, employment history, they aren't going to ask for the letters the school sent her mother about the parent teacher meeting of the time she didn't produce homework. The only thing they will look for are official records that matter to the claims she makes on the application ie birth cert, passport, drivers licence, degree/masters diploma, leaving/junior certificate, etc. You are making up hypotheticals for no reason other than dragging the arse of something that doesn't matter a ****e.
Marcusm wrote: » Interesting that your daughter got into the school, I thought many had a policy of only admitting children from homes where Irish could or would be spoken by both parents. My sister in law has been attending weekly classes for 2 years to make up for this deficiency in anticipation of te child's entry. Before there's criticism, this is not just a feature of Irish language schools. As an expat, I've seen tis with colleagues children seeking to attend French and Swiss specialist schools.
DyldeBrill wrote: » Would help me so much more if you gave me the name but I understand your reasons for not doing so. I'm sure there is a book, but nothing that I know of the top of my head. There's a lot of books for surnames in Irish so I'm sure there's one for forename's also. Is your daughters name an Irish or Celtic name?
argirl wrote: » It does cause problems; my Irish name was on my Junior Certificate (didn't do the leaving) - carried on studying as a mature student abroad a couple of years ago and had to have the Junior Cert changed by the board of education, have the certificate attested by the embassy etc. Took months and lots of hassle. At the end of the day, your name is your name - it should not be changed, whether you are in an Irish school or a German or French school.
DyldeBrill wrote: » You have the choice to put down either your Irish or English name. Choice was left to you
Cavehill Red wrote: » The defence of this practice seems to be tradition - that's what gaelscoilleanna do and that's that. Not good enough in my opinion. The Islamic school in Dublin doesn't 'translate' students' names into Arabic. The German school in Dublin doesn't 'translate' their names into German. The Anglophone schools don't do it either. Only the gaelscoilleanna do this. To me it smacks of a cultural inferiority complex.
MadsL wrote: » Define Celtic? Hell, define Irish. There are Slavs who claim Celtic ancestry. And the modern Irish weren't Celts. See how silly these cultural name games are? As far as I know (or anyone knows) her name is originally Hebrew
argirl wrote: » Also, I was 4 when I started school and it was really confusing to suddenly have a different name!!
argirl wrote: » No actually, my school filled in any forms etc, not me.
MadsL wrote: » As far as I know (or anyone knows) her name is originally Hebrew
DyldeBrill wrote: » True! Its hard to explain in a way.With names of historic significance , an Irish name will be created. But if its Hebrew then I doubt there's an Irish version and there certainly shouldn't be one.
Marcusm wrote: » I think the difference here however is that the gaelscoil is trying to preserve the Irish language and cultural identity. For the pupils with an Irish heritage, part o f this would be using the names by which they would have been called had there not had been a broad Anglicisation 170 or so years previously (coincident for the most part with the opening of national schools). Applying the same reverse translation to a person of mixed or non Irish heritage would be less obviously appropriate. I find it surprising that the OP's daughter embraces her Irish surname and not her given name. It does, however, lay lie to his indignation in part. She's willing to have one but not the other. Life's about compromise.
DyldeBrill wrote: » What forms are these? It's you who signs into the exam. Remember I got to choose my name and that was solely up to me
MadsL wrote: » Oh there's an Irish "version" alright. But spelled and pronounced differently. Daughter is like I'm grand thanks, teachers 'correct' her (and me) pronouncing her own name.
HondaSami wrote: » welcome back, you still in UAE? Wonder why this thread interest you :rolleyes:
