reprazant wrote: » Or another way of saying that it is quite a strange and unusual thing for a 4 year old to do. I don't know many people who cared about their name at 4 or 4 year old's who care about their name. Doesn't mean I didn't believe you, just that I struggled with the idea. Believe it or not, I was one a 4 year old and I didn't not care one iota about either my first name nor my surname. Hence me thinking it was unusual and struggling with the idea. You are just coming across as someone who is looking for an argument and is finding one no matter what people are asking. People asking simple questions are getting aggressive, sneering replies which rankles them and so they reply with the same and then you get what you seemingly want.
Alaia Whining Army wrote: » lol, is this thread still going? Just call the school up and say "Hey, this is Madsl. My daughter Y doesn't like being called X and we'd prefer it if the teachers referred to her by her proper name. Thanks." *click*
An Coilean wrote: » Yet when an English speaker tries to do the same, it is not 'part of a wider rotten problem' in fact if you are to be believed, should an Irish speaker dare to object to it, they are being a gob****e.
wonderfullife wrote: » Just your posts i come across always indicated you spent a large period of your life in the USA and i was going to draw a conclusion of sorts from that, which could be then torn apart thus creating another 40 posts :rolleyes:
reprazant wrote: » You are just coming across as someone who is looking for an argument and is finding one no matter what people are asking.
MadsL wrote: » I like a good scrap in debate, some thin skins around her though.
Seachmall wrote: » "Hey, this is MadsL..." "Who?" "MadsL" "Who??" "...MiresL..." "Oh, X's father!"
MadsL wrote: » Here we go again... Nope. What bearing does my nationality, marital status, number of kids, height, weight etc or any of the other irrelevant things I have been asked have to do with the topic??? Why do people always want to pigeonhole?
MadsL wrote: » And your first post on returning to this thread was a searing attack on my posting style. You got the argument you went looking for.
Alaia Whining Army wrote: » Oh. Never mind. I guess he does just like the drama.
reprazant wrote: » Since you are coming across as massively condescending in most of your posts, you probably owe everyone an apology tbf.
Boo2112 wrote: » Can you actally answer a single post in a civil manner? Its one thing fighing for something you believe in but I genuinely think you just fight for the sake of it. I won't be giving you any more seemingly much craved attention either. Op you never wanted an answer so why post a question?!
rubadub wrote: » Is it usual to translate other names into Irish, like in History classes?
MadsL wrote: » How will it enhance the debate?
wonderfullife wrote: » well, as i said, if the name they are calling her is for example her exact name pronounced a bit Irishy, it may just be a case of telling her it's really no big deal. Which it isn't. whereas if the translation is miles off, then it might be a case of having a genuine case to argue.
MadsL wrote: » But why shoud she be forced to accept any other name than the one she has and likes? I don't see any educational advantage at all. The immersion arguement doesn't work at 2nd level as they are all fluent anyway.
wonderfullife wrote: » She's not being forced to accept anything. If she wants to protest it, next time a teacher calls her name in Irish she can just ignore them. I personally don't see why it is a massive issue though, as i said teachers will only use names for a brief period in any given day, if they want to call me Homer Simpson go for it, all i really cared about is having my homework done and getting home.
miss no stars wrote: » It's the problem with documentation - like her leaving cert. And the teacher by the sounds of it isn't calling her name in Irish, the teacher is calling out a name that bears no relation to her and trying to make her accept it!
ósarusán wrote: » Right, Tomoyuki, you're Thomas....Hiromasa, you're.....Harry...Maki, you're Mary...and so on.
wonderfullife wrote: » If it's a fee paying school it's pretty simple, i ain't paying until they call her what she wants to be called. Mind you, an easier way is to pull the emotional card and say it's really upsetting her. Nobody wants to be associated with upsetting students. This could be resolved rather easily i suspect but not through this forum.
MadsL wrote: » As I said earlier, I need to do a bit of research what will be needed for a future passport/visa scenario relating to school records. Plus it is polite to ask my daughters viewpoint before wading in with size nines.
Duggys Housemate wrote: » Is the problem here that the name is not really translatable? I think the OP is reasonable enough, Proper names are proper names and even if we are ok ( used to) James being translated as Seamus, translating Ewan to Sean, or Eoin is rubbish. ( I also hate the use of Irish names in English - like Eire - where a translation exists).
Oranage2 wrote: » Small enough feet...
MadsL wrote: » US size 9 too.
Honey-ec wrote: » You do realise you've just directly contradicted yourself, yes? Proper nouns should either be translated or they shouldn't. If they should't, as you first stated, then Eire should never have been translated to Ireland in the first place. You can't have it both ways.
Seaneh wrote: » How in the name of **** would second level school records have any bearing on a visa application and how would it possibly every affect her passport?
As for a Leaving/Junior Certificate, when you register for the exam and pay the exam fee you fill out the form yourself and put your own name on it, so the school could be calling her Genghis Khan and it wouldn't matter and her Certificate will say her actual name.
