MadsL wrote: » She would prefer Given Birth First Name + Irish translated surname. This respects the language and allows her a "personality" in her name rather than just another common first name. What is wrong with that? What kind of idiot would I be to turn down a place at a great school because they inconsistently sometimes try to change pupils names. Some pupils accept it. some resist it, some teachers accept the kids wishes others are rude feckers and make an issue out of it.
fishy fishy wrote: » I am just wondering how everybody else is the school is getting on with being called the irish version of their name? Or is it just this one person that has the problem.
As I said people have been called the Irish version of names in schools in Ireland for decades.
The fact that the child is in a SPECIFICALLY IRISH school you would expect them to be calling the child by her Irish name.
It's like going into a specialty tea shop and crying because they won't serve you coffee..:D:D
MadsL wrote: » I am beginning to be concerned that if/when she applies for a US Green card it will be a nightmare with the FOUR different versions of her name floating around on various bits of documentation. Bit absurd at this stage.
MadsL wrote: » She would prefer Given Birth First Name + Irish translated surname. This respects the language and allows her a "personality" in her name rather than just another common first name. What is wrong with that?
fishy fishy wrote: » seems like an ego thing. Tell her to suck it up, learn her lessons, and move on.
The school is not trying to change names - they are following the GAELSCOIL dialect.
She can call herself anything she wants after that. Princess, Petal, Precious, whatever
the passport thing is a non-runner.
If the name to appear on the passport differs from the name listed on your previous Irish passport, other than by marriage, you will be required to produce documentary evidence of the constant use of that name for at least two years. It will be necessary to produce examples of such usage (e.g. tax/social welfare documents, bank statements, driver’s license and insurance details, medical card, PPSN/SSN card, school registration/reports, etc.). The name listed on these documents must match exactly the name to appear on the passport.
fishy fishy wrote: » why, did you incorrectly fill out the passport and birthcert wrong.
HondaSami wrote: » Honestly school records are not going to make a difference, she will be travelling on her passport, the one you got for her, her details on here is what matters. Her birth cert and passport are the same?
Wiggles88 wrote: » Actually they can be, a friend of mine had great trouble sorting out her visa to America precisely because they didnt believe that her school records were hers (the Irish version of her name looks quite different to her actual name)
MadsL wrote: » An a clip round the ear for daring to have an opinion on her own name. I suggest you look that word up, it doesn't mean what you think it means. Explain to me why changing her name is so so important again? I missed that. Some circumcision of ego in the school system is it? Explain how she does not need two years of common usage to change her passport??http://www.dfa.ie/home/index.aspx?id=38790
mitosis wrote: » OP, you need to reign in a little. Irish is given recognition by the Constitution as the national and first official language of the Republic of Ireland (with English being a second official language). So, effectively, the correct form of your child's name is the Irish form.
Taco Chips wrote: » Gross exaggeration much? Your name is a small part of your identity. Much more important is your personality, who you're friends are etc... I don't see that being "swallowed" nor is she being made to feel "ashamed" of them. It's a traditional thing. In primary school we were all addressed by our Irish names on the role. It was absolutely no big deal in the slightest. Most of us liked hearing the alternative. Added another layer to our identity if anything.
ballsymchugh wrote: » commissioner of oaths sorts that problem out.
fishy fishy wrote: » why would you be changing the name on her passport? did the school change her tax records too, her medical records, etc. them gaelscoils - ya can't be up to them. LOL
MadsL wrote: » At the moment. She would prefer to change it in future to her Irish surname. Not her makey up "Irish" first name. In total there would be four versions of her name that are on official documents if that happens.
hoodwinked wrote: » if she wanted to be addressed by the english version go to a school that will do that, don't choose a school and then give out about what they do after the fact.
fishy fishy wrote: » oh for gods sake. you go on about teachers calling her by her irish name yet now it seems she is not happy with her birth cert, passport, "make up" first name. You're getting all jumbled. Im assuming the school wasn't there when she was born to make sure you filled out her name in Irish Im assuming the school wasn't there when you filled out her passport details as per her birthcert. If so, you're fine. If as I suspect its a case of "ego" and "cool names" and wants to be changed then deal with it. You've already been told that her name in the gaelscoil - her irish version of the name - is not relevant when applying for a passport I think its yoiu doing the trolling now.
SparkySpitfire wrote: » If you don't agree with the policy of a school as it has been laid out, do not send your child there, simple as.
Dan_Solo wrote: » This sounds suspiciously like you'd end up with only people with Irish names being allowed int Gaelscoil. How inclusive of you.
SparkySpitfire wrote: » If you don't agree with the policy of a school as it has been laid out, do not send your child there, simple as. Ignorance of this policy can't be used as an excuse to rail against it after you've enrolled her. If you did your research on the school, you'd have known they do this. By enrolling her you've agreed to accept the school's policy. Your don't have a choice in how the school carries out its business. You do however, have a choice of which school to send your child to. And it's absolutely fair enough that you wanted to give her the best education, and that the best education just happened to come from a Gaeolscoil. But you can't pick and choose, you chose the Gaeolscoil with their naming policy and their better education standards over an English-speaking school with their not as high standards of education. I think you got the better end of the deal, just accept this and move on. She's not being bullied by teachers if this happens to everyone. Choose your battles, save your energy, there's going to be a time during her secondary school career that she really will need your support, don't waste your efforts on something like this, there's bigger fish to fry IMO.
Cavehill Red wrote: » The school's policy is not legal. If the school had a policy of beating the shyte out of kids, you wouldn't simply remove the child from the school and continue to respect their breaking the law. They are similarly breaking the law here. The child has a right to be addressed by her own name and no other imposed upon her, no matter what 'school policy' is.
HondaSami wrote: » A simple phone call to the school principle would clear this up.
Wiggles88 wrote: » It was to do with her work/American bank account, she couldnt get her visa without sorting all that out but, understandably, the Americans thought it was fishy that she was using documents under two very different names, took a lot of time and stressed phone calls to sort it out.
