LordSutch wrote: » go raibh maith agat, Uaimh Cnoc Ó Dearg. I think
Cavehill Red wrote: » Tiarna Ó Sútch?
Seaneh wrote: » :rolleyes: Go on, admit it, it's just another "look how backward and stupid Ireland is" thread, isn't it?
LordSutch wrote: » Back in my school days they just added an O before my Surname, then stuck in a couple of fadas to make it more Irish sounding I guess
Seaneh wrote: » My friend went to the principal, explained the situation, told them to call him Tadgh (Tige) or tigger (which his dad calls him a lot), either of those was fine with the kid and he would respond positively to them.
MadsL wrote: » Yeah, sure. 2nd generation to attend this school - doesn't work like that. American schools are quite a tad more 'accommodating'.
Cavehill Red wrote: » I'd say they have some craic in American schools what with your ethnic names (Shaniqua, etc), names of immigrant pupils, and so on. There'd probably be a riot (or at least a law suit) if anyone tried to change the pronunciation of a single pupil's name there. Quite right too imho. Your name is your name, even if it is ridiculous.
Seaneh wrote: » Issue sorted in one 15 minute meeting.
MadsL wrote: » She dislikes the fact it happens. I support her dislike. Would she like me to go in and sort it? no. Teenagers eh? Do I think we can have an interesting debate about it, yes. Do you? Clearly not. Other threads ^^^^ >>>> <<<< if you don't like that.
Cavehill Red wrote: » No, if you search back you'll find that's what I did. I asked whether any schools misnamed historical personages into Irish the way they do pupils. You chose to answer. That may explain why I wanted to establish whether your school had a policy on the matter.
ballsymchugh wrote: » search back, i did not enquire as to any other school's policy on renaming historical characters (that may or may not have been given another name, derogatory or otherwise, by the people who lived at the time).
Seaneh wrote: » Then just admit that's what this thread is about, you starting a pointless debate and stop pretending it's about some moral or ethical issue and mistreatment of your child in an educational institution in Ireland. Like I said, if you actually gave a ****e you'd have either sorted it or moved her long ago if she was actually being affected by it.
MadsL wrote: » But ****s and giggles are AH's primary directive
Cavehill Red wrote: » I'm just trying to establish whether your school had a policy of misnaming historical personages in Irish or not. It appears they did not, though you did respond to my post asking whether any school did, which is why I've persevered to get to the bottom of this. I'm not aware of any school that does that, actually, gaelscoil or otherwise. That's why I'm baffled as to why they think it legitimate to misname their pupils.
Seaneh wrote: » So it's not a big deal after all, but you're kicking up a fuss and making a big deal of it for no reason crap on AH for ****s and giggles?
frozenfrozen wrote: » I'm still in secondary school now and my name is still spelled incorrectly on everything related to the school, which was quite worrying as I got a letter home to say that "DarrRen" has paid for the leaving cert. My parents have sent in two letters over the last 5 years and mentioned it in person once to the deputy head but still no change. It must be a lot of bother for them to change a name because they're resisting quite passionately to fixing what must have been a transcription error with the addition of an r. I'll have to change my name to match my leaving cert.
ballsymchugh wrote: » i meant some characters got that treatment historically, that wasn't decreed by one man in a school in the 1990s. he merely informed us of the alternative names. the 10th earl of kildare was given an unofficial name by the people of the time too (silken thomas), as was queen elizabeth the first (the virgin queen). happy?
MadsL wrote: » Sorry Mick. I think you are being a tad judgemental. No harm in letting a kid stand up for themselves. Many of the teachers cop on to that, others are just jerks.
Cavehill Red wrote: » You said: I want to know what criteria he used to decide which ones that did 'get the treatment'.
Seaneh wrote: » Er, that would be Shawn/Shaun, as pointed out already, Eoin would be John.
And I actually think it's stupid and the teachers need a dose of cop on, but if you've let it go on this long and it's really bothering your daughter, you're a crap dad, sort it out and stand up for your kid or else cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.
MadsL wrote: » Thanks for that. I don't supposed you have any strong feelings on the subject eh John? (knowing full well you do)
ballsymchugh wrote: » some characters did get that treatment. most didn't.
Paramite Pie wrote: » I had a friend who's name Michael was pronounced 'Michelle' by the French.
Gatling wrote: » If you use Google translate you get December
Cavehill Red wrote: » You said he changed the names of some historical characters but not others. I asked what the deciding criterion was for him doing it. That's the question I'm looking for an answer for.
