Smiley Burnett wrote: » voted FF all your life??? Even during the haughey, ahern, burke, lawlor, flynn antics??? CORRUPT, CORRUPT, CORRUPT!!
mccarthy37 wrote: » You forgot to give Michael Lowry a mention wasn't he from the same era.
Sully wrote: » Has this been confirmed? Did anybody ask WLR to confirm they said such on a broadcast or did they point out where the information came from? Nobody is working in government buildings today and it seems a bit odd that an announcement would have came out when the cabinet are on a break.
Royal Legend wrote: » Bloody hell Sully, the FG led government has made a decision on WRH and they did not let Sully and the grassroots know :eek:
Sully wrote: » I don't get told anything
Royal Legend wrote: » And when we get told something its Lies :P We will have to wait to see if there is any truth in this Sully, although it looks like another one of thoses leaks the government seem to like, to see what the reation is or to lessen the full blow.
Sully wrote: » But a leak on Easter? And why leak it twice when the first reaction saw thousands out protesting - its not like everybody has decided "Arah, tis grand lads. Go ahead with that. We were only messing!".
Royal Legend wrote: » God only knows Sully, we will have to wait and see. If there is something in it, would your local organisation not make a couple of calls to find out if this is true?
Sully wrote: » Ill ask tomorrow if I don't hear anything and see if someone can tell me.
Royal Legend wrote: » Seamus Ryan (Labour Councillor) had his workers out delivering leaflets door to door today, leaflet saying what a great job he is doing for Waterford etc etc.
mccarthy37 wrote: » IS this an April fool's joke.
Smiley Burnett wrote: » 1--lowry was gone from cabinet within 24 hours of being exposed by the Indo..he was then removed from fg and prevented from running in the next election for fg
Smiley Burnett wrote: » 2--haughey was around for decades and was adored by the FF, despite what they knew about him...he was Taoiseach on 5 occassions!!
Smiley Burnett wrote: » 3--Following lowry's exposure as a crook, FG went all out to win back a seat in what was a 3-seat constituency in North Tipp...
Smiley Burnett wrote: » to compare fg's attitude and treatment of lowry, to FF's hero-worshipping of haughey and ahern is laughable to say the least!!
Sully wrote: » Jesus christ can we leave the politics out? Lowry has absolutely nothing to do with Waterford and has no impact on WRH.
Events of the last few days have prompted me to put this post together regarding the current situation in which the Labour Party finds itself. The result in last weeks bye election and today's further dismal showing in the Sunday Times Poll for the Labour Party came as no surprise to me or indeed to many Labour Party members and supporters that I have spoken to in Waterford and around the country since . The first thing I should say is that Cllr Eoin Holmes was a fine candidate that deserved better but was always going to suffer the backlash from the electorate in Meath East. This result should serve as a wake up call to the Party and in particular to our parliamentary party who continue to support policies of austerity. These policies are hitting those on middle and low incomes to a greater extent than those on higher incomes. Broken promises and complete arrogance shown by some of our Ministers have contributed to the the Party reaching this new low. Broken promises along with the introduction of a property Tax which does not take ability to pay into account are all having a detrimental effect on the lives of ordinary families the length and breadth of this country. All of this along with the failure to deliver on the jobs crisis in any substantial way has resulted in the current crisis in the fortunes of the Party. And crisis is what it is despite what some who seem to be blind to our problems. In my opinion the Labour Party should undertake a renegotiation of the Programme for Government with Fine Gael with coupled with a cabinet reshuffle. This renegotiation must put greater emphasis on Labour Party policies and must put people first. The Party Leader needs to take on an economic Minister where he can be at the centre of the economic recovery rather than his current position in Foreign Affairs which takes him out of the country for long periods. But more than that there needs to be a change in the direction of the Party and of the government . It is all very well talking about the need for the austerity but surely we must put the welfare of people and community at the centre of any government decision that is taken. This is something that seems to have been relegated and put on the back burner by this government. The policies of austerity are just not working. We can't keep reducing disposable income of people and then wonder why shops are closing or businesses are going under. People are hurting at the moment and are looking for leadership and with change I believe the Labour Party can still provide this.
@Noel I agree completely with you. We will take a huge hit electorally if there is not a change in direction
Sully wrote: » Worth nothing he is a Councillor - NOT a TD. So he has no power as to what the government do.
Sully wrote: » I assume his leaflet is on local issues not impacted by national policies. That is, after all, their job.
Sully wrote: » Jesus christ can we leave the politics out? Lowry has absolutely nothing to do with Waterford FG and has no impact influence on WRH government policy.
fuzzy dunlop wrote: » Its a political issue and it has nothing to do with Haughey either. But I noticed you didn't mind Smiley Burnett bringing that up and putting it out there.
fuzzy dunlop wrote: » Same as Paudie Coffey then.
He frequently comments on national issues.As is the case with most local politicians whatever party.
Sully wrote: » Christ almighty talk about scaremongering.
Sully wrote: » Right, so the Sunday Times - an English newspaper - supposedly has the 'leak' before the Irish Media? You must be joking. The article is a rehash of articles that have appeared in the Irish Media ages ago. Its not saying concretely that it will happen as it says that James Reilly has to go to Cabinet 'late next month'. Whats new? Nothing. There isn't anything in the start of the article that we see that is new. Christ almighty talk about scaremongering.
