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WRH now a cork outpost

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Well done to the FG sympathisers on here. Enda timed his trip down on Thursday fairly well. Snake

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Royal Legend

Seamus Ryan (Labour Councillor) had his workers out delivering leaflets door to door today, leaflet saying what a great job he is doing for Waterford etc etc.

Smiley Burnett

mccarthy37 wrote: »

You forgot to give Michael Lowry a mention wasn't he from the same era.

1--lowry was gone from cabinet within 24 hours of being exposed by the Indo..he was then removed from fg and prevented from running in the next election for fg

2--haughey was around for decades and was adored by the FF, despite what they knew about him...he was Taoiseach on 5 occassions!!

3--Following lowry's exposure as a crook, FG went all out to win back a seat in what was a 3-seat constituency in North Tipp...

to compare fg's attitude and treatment of lowry, to FF's hero-worshipping of haughey and ahern is laughable to say the least!!

Royal Legend

Sully wrote: »

But a leak on Easter? And why leak it twice when the first reaction saw thousands out protesting - its not like everybody has decided "Arah, tis grand lads. Go ahead with that. We were only messing!".

God only knows Sully, we will have to wait and see. If there is something in it, would your local organisation not make a couple of calls to find out if this is true?

Sully

Royal Legend wrote: »

And when we get told something its Lies :P

We will have to wait to see if there is any truth in this Sully, although it looks like another one of thoses leaks the government seem to like, to see what the reation is or to lessen the full blow.

But a leak on Easter? And why leak it twice when the first reaction saw thousands out protesting - its not like everybody has decided "Arah, tis grand lads. Go ahead with that. We were only messing!".

Royal Legend

Sully wrote: »

I don't get told anything

And when we get told something its Lies :P

We will have to wait to see if there is any truth in this Sully, although it looks like another one of thoses leaks the government seem to like, to see what the reation is or to lessen the full blow.

Sully

Royal Legend wrote: »

Bloody hell Sully, the FG led government has made a decision on WRH and they did not let Sully and the grassroots know :eek:

I don't get told anything

Royal Legend

Sully wrote: »

Has this been confirmed? Did anybody ask WLR to confirm they said such on a broadcast or did they point out where the information came from? Nobody is working in government buildings today and it seems a bit odd that an announcement would have came out when the cabinet are on a break.

Bloody hell Sully, the FG led government has made a decision on WRH and they did not let Sully and the grassroots know :eek:

Sully

Has this been confirmed? Did anybody ask WLR to confirm they said such on a broadcast or did they point out where the information came from? Nobody is working in government buildings today and it seems a bit odd that an announcement would have came out when the cabinet are on a break.

Royal Legend

mccarthy37 wrote: »

You forgot to give Michael Lowry a mention wasn't he from the same era.

His era is still here and no one in government is doing anything about it, in fact the silence is deafening.

mccarthy37

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

voted FF all your life??? Even during the haughey, ahern, burke, lawlor, flynn antics??? CORRUPT, CORRUPT, CORRUPT!!

You forgot to give Michael Lowry a mention wasn't he from the same era.

Royal Legend

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

voted FF all your life??? Even during the haughey, ahern, burke, lawlor, flynn antics??? CORRUPT, CORRUPT, CORRUPT!!

At least I admit it, I also said that I did not know if I would vote for them at the next election, at least I admit where my past alliegience lay, unlike others on here. By the way I agree Haughey was corrupt and at the time you did not see FG arguing as they had a few of their own, the most prominent man to go against Haughey at the time was O'Malley and he was made out to be a right bollix, but history has proven he was right. Burke, Lawlor yes, Flynn was an arrogant clown, very similar imo to todays crowd, Reilly, Shatter, Veradker, Gilmore et al. Not sure if anything was ever fully proven against Bertie, but the doubts will always persist.

Smiley Burnett

Royal Legend wrote: »

Yes, Yes it does.

I am happy to admit I have voted Fianna Fail all my life, I don't know if I would vote for them in any future election. I am not affiliated to FF or anyone else. But I think there are a few on here affiliated either to FG, Labour, SF or the socialists. Those people that are, need to state their alliegience and then leave it at the door.

voted FF all your life??? Even during the haughey, ahern, burke, lawlor, flynn antics??? CORRUPT, CORRUPT, CORRUPT!!

mccarthy37

Cabaal wrote: »

Are you seriously trying to compare the protesters outside the tower somehow to 1916? Seriously?
:rolleyes:

You completely miss the point being made I find it grossly insulting to call somebody a dickhead because they are trying to make their protest heard. If we do lose our status as a regional hospital it is only another blow following on from the ambulance call service that was brought to Wexford. I know this protest was not about this subject but people are getting very frustrated I mean look at the carry on of Sean Dunne going bankrupt in the State's and claiming he has paid his debt to Ireland. Who pick's up the tab there estimated to be in the region of one Billion dollar's. The dollar was used in the report in The Sunday Indo to make it look more authentic going bust in America don't you know. Why wasn't he a true patriot and declare bankruptcy in Ireland as a lot of small people will have to do now who are being hounded out of their home's due to these irresponsible gambler's. Listen the first post I uses a bit of sarcasm in frustration when I look around and see who are called businessmen and who are called criminal in this country. Those who are making a stand angainst this Property Tax will be called tax dodgers and criminal's while a lot of these people who declare bankruptcy in foreign shores will no doubt come back in to the fold and will be referred to as prominent businessmen by our very own government in the near future. I often wonder if those men of 1916 could have seen into the future to this present day would they feel betrayed.

Cabaal

mccarthy37 wrote: »

Sure look at the example those dickheads set when they had the cheek to march down Sackville St. in 1916 but they got plenty of abuse from those who remained loyal to the government of the day didn't they. They even had the cheek to shout when they were shot for their heinous crimes.

Are you seriously trying to compare the protesters outside the tower somehow to 1916? Seriously?
:rolleyes:

mccarthy37

Psychedelic wrote: »

When has shouting stuff like "shame" at politicians ever achieved anything?

"Yeah, we showed them," the shouters must think to themselves.

Heckling and making noise when the Taoiseach is speaking at the opening of a museum is the height of ignorance. That is not protesting, it's acting the dickhead.

Sure I suppose they were only copying Michael Noonan or Big Phil in action in the Dail when some dickhead who is not in Fine Gael was trying to make a point.
All those lefties what right have they to open their gobs in this little right wing state.
Sure look at the example those dickheads set when they had the cheek to march down Sackville St. in 1916 but they got plenty of abuse from those who remained loyal to the government of the day didn't they. They even had the cheek to shout when they were shot for their heinous crimes.

Psychedelic

When has shouting stuff like "shame" at politicians ever achieved anything?

"Yeah, we showed them," the shouters must think to themselves.

Heckling and making noise when the Taoiseach is speaking at the opening of a museum is the height of ignorance. That is not protesting, it's acting the dickhead.

Jason Todd

Royal Legend wrote: »

Anyone here can see I am not arguing with you, but they can also see you have an issue answering the question. I wonder why?

All I can see is someone who dragged the debate down to childish levels. The question to Dicky Pride is a pointless one, that's why.

I have no political affiliation, in fact I know nothing about politics. I keep up with what's happening locally, and it's attitudes like Royal Legends that stop me becoming more involved in these protests etc. You can't move on the Save Waterford facebook page for the stupid, militant, ignorant and uninformed comments from the majority of people, and what's worse is the two girls behind SW either 'like' these comments or agree with them, fueling the ignorance further.

If it's true that Mary Roche was heckled then that just shows certain people haven't a clue. From what I have seen and read she is steadfastly pro-Waterford and Government-weary and is about the only person involved in this who's opinion comes from a reasoned, educated place and is an opinion I trust.

Like I say, I don't know much about politics, but I don't feel the need to jam what little I know down other people's throats.

Cabaal

Guys if you want to continue this back n forth nonsense then take it to PM please,

Royal Legend

Anyone here can see I am not arguing with you, but they can also see you have an issue answering the question. I wonder why?

Dicky Pride

I'm choosing not to answer you because you are a child and I'm not comfortable arguing with children on the Internet. You're all hyped up on chocolate and should probably think about heading to bed.

Royal Legend

Dicky Pride wrote: »

Are you 14?

Does that bother you? It is mid term you know.

An hour and a half later and you still have not answered the question.

Did the protestors abuse and shout at you? Its a simple question.

Dicky Pride

Are you 14?

Royal Legend

S.E.F.L Di you shout and abuse Dicky, tell the truth now

Royal Legend

Dicky Pride wrote: »

First off, there was no bad announcement today, only someone on a local radio station reading the words of a journalist.

Secondly, as part of Enda's speech on Thursday he said the words:

"This is a good day for waterford. In my opinion this is the day that starts Waterford's comeback." He then said that there would be an announcement about the hospital in a few weeks.

Now, he brought up the hospital...nobody asked him about it. Why would he bring it up like that if a bad news announcement was just days away?

But to answer your question, if fifty thousand people lined the streets of waterford I don't think they could prevent certain changes being made. It's what those changes will be that we're all waiting for. And nothing has been learned today.

Royal Legend wrote: »

Is the problem Dicky that they taunted you as well? Did they know/not know who you were? By any chance were you splashed by a drop of coffee?

I read your earlier post as pro government, I still see you as a government apologist, you were inside the railing, which means that you had to have clearence to be standing outside, maybe you are a reporter. anyway, thats my opinion.

So, did they shout at you Dicky?

Dicky Pride

Royal Legend wrote: »

Is the problem Dicky that they taunted you as well? Did they know/not know who you were? By any chance were you splashed by a drop of coffee?

So you're going to make a statement like that and then just move on without backing it up? Doesn't do much for your credibility.

S.E.F.L

Dicky Pride wrote: »

Excuse me, I was standing 5 feet from her. There were people shouting shame shame at her. This is getting funny now.

When she came out of the towet hotel same time as gary wyse i recall, shame was only directed at gary wyse, from looking at the save waterford facebook thread quite a few people commented they re sorry they didn,t protest on thursday, its too late now to be crying over spilled milk, they had a choice and chance to come out and protest when kenny came they didn,t bother, now we hear the bad news about wrh.

Royal Legend

Dicky Pride wrote: »

The answer is simple. A lot of people protesting didn't have a clue who was who...they just saw people leaving who looked like they might be someone, and they taunted them.

Is the problem Dicky that they taunted you as well? Did they know/not know who you were? By any chance were you splashed by a drop of coffee?

Dicky Pride

Royal Legend wrote: »

Well you have backed the government on here for the evening, as regards the protest, at least some people made their feelings known publically, all this "embarrassing2 crap that is spouted by some people is beyond me, how else can people make their feelings known? maybe shout at the TV, please let us know dicky.
There was even one person on earlier talking about militant waterford and how last week was similar to the stuff that went on national TV during the Crystal sit in. what a load of bollix, the people who were angry at the crystal centre that evening had plenty of reason to be angry, if I had lost all my pension I would have been fit to do much the same.
Its time people woke up to the down grading of Waterford, full stop.

I've backed the government? Show me where? If you can make a statement like that so easily then you can surely be able to quote where I have backed them.

Royal Legend

Dicky Pride wrote: »

1. I'm from Waterford City.
2. I laugh out loud at the thought of that. I don't affiliate myself with any party.

This is typical waterford crap. Someone calls it as they see it, that is a lot of idiots on facebook pretending to be anarchists when they really haven't a clue what's going on. All I was doing was commenting on the protesters on thursday...they behaved disgracefully in my opinion, and the opinion of many others. But you think that for me to have that opinion, I must be partisan one way or another.

Life isn't that black and white Royal Legend.

Well you have backed the government on here for the evening, as regards the protest, at least some people made their feelings known publically, all this "embarrassing2 crap that is spouted by some people is beyond me, how else can people make their feelings known? maybe shout at the TV, please let us know dicky.
There was even one person on earlier talking about militant waterford and how last week was similar to the stuff that went on national TV during the Crystal sit in. what a load of bollix, the people who were angry at the crystal centre that evening had plenty of reason to be angry, if I had lost all my pension I would have been fit to do much the same.
Its time people woke up to the down grading of Waterford, full stop.

martin12

Royal Legend wrote: »

Yes, Yes it does.

I am happy to admit I have voted Fianna Fail all my life, I don't know if I would vote for them in any future election. I am not affiliated to FF or anyone else. But I think there are a few on here affiliated either to FG, Labour, SF or the socialists. Those people that are, need to state their alliegience and then leave it at the door.

totally agree with you