aloyisious wrote: » I'm surprised that anyone here actually think's that the four Garda Sgts who walked out of the Annual Conference of their representative body (in line with the instructions of the members they were nominated to represent) when two invited guest speakers began to speak should face internal disciplinary action within the Garda Disciplinary Code. To my mind, the conference was a private function held by the AGSI, not an official Garda function convened by the Minister or the Commissioner which the Sgts were ordered or obliged to attend. It might have been rude of them to walk out on the boss and the Govt Rep, but those two people were guests of the AGSI, who were the conveners of the conference. It seem's to me that a complaint from either or both of the offended persons to the AGSI might be the better way to go about it, even if it included a PR briefing to the media about the complaint letters so the letters would be in the public domain.
Chucky the tree wrote: » So the AGSI lied? That's disgraceful on their part.
Pappa Charlie wrote: » Maybe if the people of this country had the balls to stand up to politicans like the 4 AGSI members we wouldn't have the troika ramming austerity down our throats, guess its easier for some posters to be key board warriors and try and run down those who have the balls to do it, it's no co incidence that its those who face down criminals daily who are now standing up and being counted and calling halt and they will get great support both from gardai and the general public!
Pappa Charlie wrote: » Maybe if the people of this country had the balls to stand up to politicans like the 4 AGSI members we wouldn't have the troika ramming austerity down our throats
frankie_fisher wrote: » so you think the guards are striking a blow for all of us victims of troika austerity , that it ?
true wrote: » You surely mean that if the people of this country/ politicians had the balls to stand up to Gardai and public servants, we wouldn't have the situation where the average Garda pension is worth 1.3 million euro (according to RTE last night ) , and the troika ramming austerity down the rest of our throats.
Pappa Charlie wrote: » You just stay behind your keyboard!
Vizzy wrote: » See,thats the thing though isn't it.? Ye would all love to reduce Nurses pay or Garda numbers or Local Authority personnel until Granny gets sick or Maura gets burgled or Johnny needs the road outside his house repaired. Then everything changes
dj jarvis wrote: » iCP II has a promise of no more cuts , so no more cuts , job for life and a handy retirement
Pappa Charlie wrote: » Maybe they have more of a grasp of justice and injustice than your average keyboard warrior!
scwazrh wrote: » I don't think their wages should have gone as high as they did.Public sector wages increased because of the workers basically saying look how much everyone in the private sector is earning . Their wages went up in the good times and have to come down in the bad times
HondaSami wrote: » Did cp1 not promise no more cuts ? This government cannot be trusted, they still have a clause where they can ask for more cuts if needed.
dj jarvis wrote: » FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT im with you - because im sure you are out 24/7 fighting perceived injustices for whatever topic is "hot" on AH at the moment. I hate these keyboard warriors :rolleyes:
darkhorse wrote: » So, why should the cost of living not come down in line with the wage cuts, in the bad times?
frankie_fisher wrote: » always amazes me how some people view that jaded arguement as either clever or effective all it says is that if you dont pay us , we,l refuse to investigate burglury or give your a tetnus injection if you visit the hospital , do you think blackmail either reflects well upon those trying it or remotley wins over the general public people who trot out such cliches sound like unthinking sheep oh and btw , where i live the roads are impassable with potholes , thats what happens when all funds are ringfenced for pensions and wages , with croke park 2 in the bag , i can look forward to a road which looks like swiss cheese for the next few years
Vizzy wrote: » I presume that with the spelling in this post that you would favour longer teaching hours in school
Vizzy wrote: » So had CP1 and here we are 18 months before that was due to expire,asked to vote on pay cuts and extra hours(which are effectively a paycut by another name)
dj jarvis wrote: » and its no coincidence that they stand up when its THEIR pay and conditions that are at stake I dont remember the garda coming out when the waterford crystal workers lost their jobs , or when dell dumped limerick in the **** , no , its when the chicken has come home to roost the suddenly spring into action, if you are looking for solidarity then give it also. they have the right to better than average pay considering the ****ty job some of them have to do , fair enough , i have no problem with that , but it also has to be accepted that they have a great retirement age , great pension and not bad pay in between if they were the only ones being targeted i would be agree its un fair and un just - but they are not , and if im not mistaken , CP II has a promise of no more cuts , so no more cuts , job for life and a handy retirement time to take stock and consider their position. the ASGI sold them a pup - and now are moaning for getting caught out
Pappa Charlie wrote: » Just like you!
Boombastic wrote: » UK £1200 -€1420 (unsociable allowances pay) £4,338 - €5137 (London, to be paid at the discretion of the chief constable) £3288 - €3893 (London Weighting) £1,000 - €1184) outside London,to be paid at the discretion of the chief constable) Police officer in London Total €32, 951 (€5137 of that paid at the discretion of the chief constable) Outside London - €25,105 (1184 of that paid at the discretion of the chief constable) Ireland (I've just added basic allowances but I'm sure there's more) Rent €4,162.48 Boot 152 Uniform 256 On attestation - 31670 after 22 weeks -34362
frankie_fisher wrote: » if the AGS union - representitive body was so concerned about cuts to garda pay , why did they keep quite a year ago when large numbers of guards ( with considerable time under their belt ) retired on exceptionally generous pensions ? surely they knew the well would be lowered and less would be left for those who hung on or were about to join up
dj jarvis wrote: » Im no mere warrior - I am a GOD. seriously - you have no idea of my activism or lack of , please dont try to assume , as you did with the other poster , i could be the guy out side the dail with a cardboard placard fighting for what i believe in. dont assume i am what your limited thought can imagine.
tayto lover wrote: » I presume it's because they represented those retiring Garda. That seems to be their job after all. It would be remarkable if they complained about it. I have yet to see a Union or Body complain that they were getting too much. That's not the way representing your men works.
