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The Angelus on RTE

Arpa

Just saw someone mention the Angelus in the embarrassing TV moments thread. I was thinking about this yesterday as I heard it come on before the news and was wondering why do RTE have it on at all?

Surely a state broadcaster should not be promoting one religion over another, rather they should be unbiased and not have any religious prayer schedule. If they are going to have the Angelus why not the Muslim call to prayer or any other prayer schedule for that matter?

I think it's fine if they have religious affairs programming as long as they remain informative and are not preaching.

Whether one is religious or not surely the state broadcaster should not be aligning itself with any one particular faith especially since we currently don't have any ambassador in the Vatican State. I know people will think it's just tradition, but it's so dated now...a part of bygone times and I see no need for it to be forced on TV viewers or Radio listeners.

"What harm is it?", people might say. Well none in particular as in fact I find some source of comedy in all those people pausing and looking to the sky, which by the way nobody ever does. However it does represent an Ireland of the past and if we want to present ourselves as a modern, multi-cultural, multi-ethnic and multi-faith society then this should be removed from our broadcasting schedule.

What think ye AH?

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mikom

My name is URL wrote: »

In the Name of the Most Holy Trinity, from Whom is all authority and to Whom, as our final end, all actions both of men and States must be referred,

She was good in the first Matrix movie, to be fair.

mikemac1

murpho999 wrote: »

also interviewing priests when something bad happens in a vilage (which they often refer to as a parish).

It's a reflectoin of the old Ireland that we should leave behind.

That's what it is, it's a parish. If you think parish is an old fashioned term then you'll be waiting many decades if ever for it to die out.

It determines what your nearest school is, what GAA team you play for and more.

What should we call it?

And if there is news like a road death or a murder and the media want someone with local knowledge then the priest is the perfect person.
Or the postmisstress or the school principal, just the priest will be available and is well used to talking

Better the priest then the local county councillor trying to boost their profile!

hyperborean

this is number 9,

http://www.boards.ie/search/submit/?query=angelus

oppenheimer1

murpho999 wrote: »

Seriously, who does this? Who actually pauses for the day to self-reflect?

Either, way if you do, that's your own business.

It should not be rammed down our throats by the state broadcaster.

Station has a very catholic agenda. Sending Bryan Dobson to Rome recently for new pope.
Giving air time to Desmond Connell, Brian Darcy and that pseudo priest David Quinn regulary and also interviewing priests when something bad happens in a vilage (which they often refer to as a parish).

It's a reflectoin of the old Ireland that we should leave behind.

Your arguments lose all meaning when you use tired hackneyed clichés.

As for RTÉ's very catholic agenda, perhaps you should read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_to_Prey . Just because you want to see bias doesn't mean there is bias.

Anyway this old chestnut resurfaces, how many times have we had this specific topic?

LordSutch

My name is URL wrote: »

Just curious as to why you've such an issue with the angelus being played for 60 seconds a day yet seem to have no issue with the like of 'Songs of Praise' etc...

Songs of Praise has nothing to do with this topic, as it does not occupy the first sixty seconds of the Six O'Clock news every day!

At six O'Clock it would be nice to get the news headlines at six, instead of having to change channels for the news headlines on all other channels - only to switch back to RTE One, after the bells have bonged away for a whole minute . . .

I find the Angelus more of a nuisance than anything, plus the fact that it presumes everybody is RC.

oppenheimer1

LordSutch wrote: »

Songs of Praise has nothing to do with this topic, as it does not occupy the first sixty seconds of the Six O'Clock news every day!

At six O'Clock it would be nice to get the news headlines on RTE, instead of having to change channels for the news headlines at six, only to switch back to RTE One after the bells have bonged away.

I find the Angelus more of a nusance more than anything, plus the fact that it presumes everybody is RC.

I believe RTE News quite like it because it allows people to have a look at the headlines over on BBC before switching back to RTE

zenno

This Angelus sounds better than the original imo.

SilverScreen

They should donate 60 second tributes to the likes of Albert Einstein and Isaac Newton. You know, people who have actually made our lives better and improved our understanding of the world around us.

admiralofthefleet

i loved the spoof of it after bruce almighty in the cinema

ejmaztec

Zero1986 wrote: »

They should donate 60 second tributes to the likes of Albert Einstein and Isaac Newton. You know, people who have actually made our lives better and improved our understanding of the world around us.

The dongs might be preferable to a 60 second science lesson.:p

SilverScreen

ejmaztec wrote: »

The dongs might be preferable to a 60 second science lesson.:p

Why not? Science is wonderful

Doesn't have to be science-related though, you could dedicate it to other inspirational people like Nelson Mandela, even Mother Teresa.

Sunnyisland

Listning to it now, sure its a great tune :-)

ejmaztec

Zero1986 wrote: »

Why not? Science is wonderful

Doesn't have to be science-related though, you could dedicate it to other inspirational people like Nelson Mandela, even Mother Teresa.

Wouldn't be popular on here, as she's already been torn to shreds.:eek:

Seachmall

Zero1986 wrote: »

Mother Teresa.

God love 'er.

wendell borton

Zero1986 wrote: »

They should donate 60 second tributes to the likes of Albert Einstein and Isaac Newton. You know, people who have actually made our lives better and improved our understanding of the world around us.

The atomic bomb has great improved my life.:rolleyes:

Seachmall

wendell borton wrote: »

The atomic bomb has great improved my life.:rolleyes:

Because the Atomic Bomb is all that Einstein is remembered for or all that he contributed.

SilverScreen

ejmaztec wrote: »

Wouldn't be popular on here, as she's already been torn to shreds.:eek:

I know but it would keep the God lovers from complaining too much.

Arpa

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

Anyway this old chestnut resurfaces, how many times have we had this specific topic?

I'm sorry if the topic has been done before but just because a topic has been done on boards before doesn't mean it can't be done again. I'm not going to search for topics done since the inception of boards before I post something that I think is worthy of discussion.

If it has been done umpteen times then it's obviously an issue people feel strongly about and want to discuss.

The fact that it has been done before does not negate the possibility that it can be discussed again and that alone cannot be used as an argumentative retort to somehow diminish someone else's argument.

keano_afc

I'm not Catholic, but it doesnt bother me at all. I've more important things to be worrying about than 50 seconds of noise that doesnt affect me in the slightest.

Archeron

Mickeroo wrote: »

Bong.........

Bong.....

greenpilot

Archeron wrote: »

Bong.....

Bong....

mccarthy37

Anyone remember when television wasn't broadcast through the night and it used to close with the National Anthem. I was a guest in a house one time and when the Anthem came on everybody stood to attention. I taught it was hilarious, I wonder how many families all stand still and say the Angelus now because I remember a time when this was done.

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padma wrote: »

I do see it as a minute reflection for the day, to just stop, let go all the stress of daily life and have at least one minute of the day where we aren't being bombarded with busyness.

When ever I feel the need to reflect on things, I always put on my tape of a bell going "boonnngg.... boonnngg.... boonnngg", really helps to clear my mind.

mccarthy37 wrote: »

Anyone remember when television wasn't broadcast through the night and it used to close with the National Anthem.

I used to like A Prayer At Bedtime, do they still do that?

Einhard

I'm an atheist and I have no issue with it. In fact, I actually kind of like it. Just one of those small things that helps distinguish us from another country.

demanufactured

Auld biddies love it as much as bingo on a Monday night.

Capt'n Midnight

It's handy because you can get the UK news headlines, then flip back to RTE to get the Irish headlines and decide which to watch.

Arpa

Einhard wrote: »

I'm an atheist and I have no issue with it. In fact, I actually kind of like it. Just one of those small things that helps distinguish us from another country.

Distinguish us in a bad light I would say. A state broadcaster should not align itself with a particular religion. We are not living under canon law, presbyterian law, shariah law, hindi law et al. We should not be paying a tax for our broadcaster to promote Catholicism. That's not to say I would prefer it to promote any other faith...there is intrinsic bias. As for people saying it distinguishes us...Italy, Germany, Philippines and Mexico supposedly have it as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelus#Modern_usage

Haveadayoff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygKBIJ6vLI0

This is da only ANGELUS I listen to lol.