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Mother of Mark Quinsey dies

Hondo75

This is what these idiots forget about when they murder people.

The mother of a soldier shot dead by the Real IRA as he took delivery of a pizza has 'died of a broken heart', her daughter said yesterday.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2297963/Mother-British-soldier-gunned-Real-IRA-terrorist-died-broken-heart.html#ixzz2OOyeQmYt
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Mario Jardel

Ye are all very naive.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

Mario Jardel wrote: »

Ye are all very naive.

Enlighten us

Seachmall

Mario Jardel wrote: »

Ok that's your own opinion.

Out of curiosity, what's your definition of war?

Jimoslimos

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I think it's possible.Taggart died a week after his wife. Family members said he died of a broken heart.

Confirmation bias

[Deleted User]

I don't get what you mean jimo ?

Yitzhak Rabin

SamHall wrote: »

In the name of fairness.

He was due to go to Afghanistan the next day.

I say this as a pacifist. But do you think he would have killed another human being over there, if need be, and in the name of war?

What has that got to do with anything? I don't think he was killed by some anti-war campaigning pacifist.

Shooting up soldiers and a Polish pizza delivery boy in the name of 'da cause' is a very different thing than a professional army deploying to Afghanistan.

Mario Jardel

Seachmall wrote: »

Out of curiosity, what's your definition of war?

''War is an organized and often prolonged conflict that is carried out by states and/or non-state actors. It is characterised by extreme violence, social disruption, human suffering, and economic destruction''

Mario Jardel

Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »

What has that got to do with anything? I don't think he was killed by some anti-war campaigning pacifist.

Shooting up soldiers and a Polish pizza delivery boy in the name of 'da cause' is a very different thing than a professional army deploying to Afghanistan.

Killing is killing. Professional or not

Seachmall

Mario Jardel wrote: »

''War is an organized and often prolonged conflict that is carried out by states and/or non-state actors. It is characterised by extreme violence, social disruption, human suffering, and economic destruction''

And I'd infer from that that war requires two or more parties to be actively engaging in "extreme violence, social disruption, human suffering, and economic destruction'' against each other, correct?

hare

Is 800yrs prolonged enough for ya,

Mario Jardel

All I'm saying is that the grief that this poor woman suffered would have been prevented if she stopped her son from joining the army in the first place.

Mario Jardel

Seachmall wrote: »

And I'd infer from that that war requires two or more parties to be actively engaging in "extreme violence, social disruption, human suffering, and economic destruction'' against each other, correct?

Republicans against Loyalists correct?

Banjo String

Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »

What has that got to do with anything? I don't think he was killed by some anti-war campaigning pacifist.

Shooting up soldiers and a Polish pizza delivery boy in the name of 'da cause' is a very different thing than a professional army deploying to Afghanistan.

Pretty sure the odd Afghan family would disagree with you there.

Like i said, i didn't /don't agree with the killing of those young lads, but the fact remains they were about to be deployed to Afghanistan to possibly kill in the name of their country.

You cannot scorn one without the other.

That's my opinion on it. (I, incidentally scorn both)

Yitzhak Rabin

Mario Jardel wrote: »

All I'm saying is that the grief that this poor woman suffered would have been prevented if she stopped her son from joining the army in the first place.

Yeah and that girl wouldn't have been raped if she didn't wear such a revealing outfit... :rolleyes:

Jimoslimos

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I don't get what you mean jimo ?

People tend to see patterns that match their preconceived beliefs.

By the law of averages some people will die in close proximity to that of a loved one. We spot these but don't notice the ones that live for another 20 years

Seachmall

Mario Jardel wrote: »

Republicans against Loyalists correct?

Presumably we're discussing the RIRA vs. BA, not republicans vs. loyalists.

Witcher

Mario Jardel wrote: »

All I'm saying is that the grief that this poor woman suffered would have been prevented if she stopped her son from joining the army in the first place.

Her son was a grown man. A parent can't control their adult child.

humbert

Mrs Brankin, from Birmingham, was found dead this week, a fortnight after the fourth anniversary of the killings.

Completely made up "news" story.

[Deleted User]

Jimoslimos wrote: »

People tend to see patterns that match their preconceived beliefs.

By the law of averages some people will die in close proximity to that of a loved one. We spot these but don't notice the ones that live for another 20 years

That makes sense. I guess then, if a grief stricken loved one died 20 yrs later you should say "died with a broken heart" rather than "died of a broken heart".

darced

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Seachmall

darced wrote: »

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Are you talking spoof or do you actually think there average British soldier kills at least a few innocent Afghanis?

Yamanoto

darced wrote: »

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Guaranteed employment for 12 years and a reasonable pension on exit is understandably attractive to many prospective recruits.

[Deleted User]

The man was killed before he went to Afghanistan! I have no idea why some of you here are blaming him for killing people that are not even dead!

darced

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galwayrush

Mario Jardel wrote: »

All I'm saying is that the grief that this poor woman suffered would have been prevented if she stopped her son from joining the army in the first place.

That's like saying a Polish mother should have stopped her son becoming a pizza delivery guy.

Seachmall

darced wrote: »

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Indirectly?

Oh, I hope you expand on that

darced

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Trotter

People talk about Afghanistan like the locals doing the shooting aren't the ones blowing up schools that allow girls to attend and aren't the ones executing rape victims for bringing 'shame' to their families and aren't the ones pumping Western Europe with heroin.

Seachmall

darced wrote: »

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I really can't, please go on!

catallus

Trotter wrote: »

People talk about Afghanistan like the locals doing the shooting aren't the ones blowing up schools that allow girls to attend and aren't the ones executing rape victims for bringing 'shame' to their families and aren't the ones pumping Western Europe with heroin.

I suppose this thread is so far off topic now but I have to ask what kind of statement is this, to justify the sending of occupying soldiers to a country on the other side of the world bringing untold misery to them because of what you deem to be their unacceptable culture?

Seachmall wrote: »

I really can't, please go on!

If you have to ask then you don't need to know.