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Rubbish bin collected? No? Fine then.

Dwork

Having worn out all other means of extracting cash(o.k, not all, not even many, but some) our good leaders are now introducing a new whizz that Households who do not have an agreement with a licenced waste collection service(i.e a bin company) are to be fined. €75 snots on the spot, to be precise, with failure to pay that leading to a court appearance and a potential €1700.00 fine.

So Ah, heading out at dusk to burn the papers? Scattering your weekly waste amongst the neighbours bins? Digging small holes in the local park and burying it? Them days are numbered. So, you need a compulsory T.V licence, you pay household Tax(or you will soon), you pay VAT on everything, you pay your taxes. You'll soon be paying for water. You pay for ESB, Gas, car tax, compulsory car insurance, expensive fuel for your house and vehicle. Your septic tank charges. And now you sign up to compulsory bin collection.

I for one am beginning to think I might just give Endas account number for my wages to be paid into. It would save a lot of messing. What think ye?

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Chucken

sheesh wrote: »

I'm trying to work something in here

His wife does it too you know, thats the problem they both re-enforce each others attitudes, unfortunately 2 wongs don't make it right .

Back on topic:we need a link to the original story to see if you can just get receipts from waste providers.

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kneemos

Dwork wrote: »

Better still, a brown bin will be compulsory and take first precedence. Second then is a recycling bin, if you have space. Third comes the "normal" bin. If you only have room for one bin, it has to be a brown one. Room for two? Brown and recycling. No room for three? Take your own rubbish to a municipal center and pay and get a receipt. Twas in todays Indo and I don't do links, due to being handycapable in the computers department.

If you compost and feed scraps to the dog and don't need a brown bin does that nean you can't have a green or black bin?

Seachmall

sheesh wrote: »

unfortunately 2 wongs don't make it right .

Dwork wrote: »

that is just so wong.

I'm claiming rights to this joke.

Ye both owe me royalties.

It would be wong to refuse.

humbert

hamsterboy wrote: »

This is laughable. I burn any food waste in my fireplace. Recycle all bottles and cans and then anything else is bagged and once every few weeks I fill the boot of the Scenic and bring it to the waste management depot.... Nothing illegal, just frugal and now they wanna penalise me... Bring it on!

Same, with composting. I live alone so generate very little rubbish. I also don't have a tv. Looks like I'm going to be paying for two services I don't use.

Jazzmaster

kneemos wrote: »

If you compost and feed scraps to the dog and don't need a brown bin does that nean you can't have a green or black bin?

Have you got a license for that dog?

kneemos

Jazzmaster wrote: »

Have you got a license for that dog?

A license to kill.

My name is URL

lmao.. they can go and shite

hoodwinked

Jogathon wrote: »

However, maybe a better way of approaching it would be to change every household €100 per year and then supply a weekly/fortnightly collection.

delw wrote: »

Maybe bin collection should be included in the property tax

you mean like when we used pay taxes which were passed onto the council to collect refuse back in the good ole 90's?

i remember they used also cut common green areas....those were the days services by government in exchange for taxes and payments....

RobbingBandit wrote: »

So they miss sell the collection rights to private companies that couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery and now decide to screw over joe public again,greedy ****ers. Mark my words the Glimmer-man or the window tax will be the next thing to return

This is pretty much it,

its a case of

you pay us money to collect your waste...
we sell your account to a private company
they charge you to collect your waste,
we fine you if you don't use them...

seems legit :rolleyes:

My name is URL

hmmm wrote: »

If true I don't think this is a bad idea. I do a lot of hiking in the mountains, and they are covered in illegally dumped rubbish. Some people are too mean to pay a few quid to get their rubbish taken away, but they have no problem paying for the petrol to go dump their c**p into a bog.

And that has what exactly to do with the people that have never illegally dumped rubbish and do not require to have it collected on a weekly basis?

Let's be realistic here... the people most likely to dump their rubbish with no regard for law or the environment are the ones most likely to be unaffected by the introduction of any new tax or ultimatum like this. You'd need to be deluded to think an initiative like this will cut down on illegal waste, or even if that's the purpose for its introduction.

Bipolar Joe

I wonder which one of Enda's friends has money invested in waste collection.

Teyla Emmagan

I am so sick of being told what to do.

[Deleted User]

I got a letter in the middle of last year from my Co Leitrim bin collection company. I purchase tags as and when needed rather than pay a yearly charge. Anyhoo, the letter stated that it was a compulsory government requirement (or words to that effect) that I sign the form they enclosed stating they were my bin collectors.

I had a feeling it was a ploy to get more info for the HHC database so I never sent the letter back.

Before christmas they wrote to me again stating it was now illegal to dispose of organic waste in the black bin. I would now need brown bin and this collection would be free of charge. It also had a form to fill out requesting the bin and I would have to forward €10 for the bin. I forgot to about replying to that too. Haven't seen any neighbours with a brown bin out either.

kneemos

Nobody wants a brown bin cos they're disgusting,smelly and unhygenic.

Chop Chop

Dwork wrote: »

Better still, a brown bin will be compulsory and take first precedence. Second then is a recycling bin, if you have space. Third comes the "normal" bin. If you only have room for one bin, it has to be a brown one. Room for two? Brown and recycling. No room for three? Take your own rubbish to a municipal center and pay and get a receipt. Twas in todays Indo and I don't do links, due to being handycapable in the computers department.

But I don't want it in the bown bin

TiGeR KiNgS

Dwork wrote: »

Having worn out all other means of extracting cash(o.k, not all, not even many, but some) our good leaders are now introducing a new whizz that Households who do not have an agreement with a licenced waste collection service(i.e a bin company) are to be fined. €75 snots on the spot, to be precise, with failure to pay that leading to a court appearance and a potential €1700.00 fine.

So Ah, heading out at dusk to burn the papers? Scattering your weekly waste amongst the neighbours bins? Digging small holes in the local park and burying it? Them days are numbered. So, you need a compulsory T.V licence, you pay household Tax(or you will soon), you pay VAT on everything, you pay your taxes. You'll soon be paying for water. You pay for ESB, Gas, car tax, compulsory car insurance, expensive fuel for your house and vehicle. Your septic tank charges. And now you sign up to compulsory bin collection.

I for one am beginning to think I might just give Endas account number for my wages to be paid into. It would save a lot of messing. What think ye?

I just fly tip.
I call it a dirty protest.

Risteard

kneemos wrote: »

Nobody wants a brown bin cos they're disgusting,smelly and unhygenic.

You can get biodegradable bags so your bin doesn't end up smelling.

Wibbs

hoodwinked wrote: »

you mean like when we used pay taxes which were passed onto the council to collect refuse back in the good ole 90's?

i remember they used also cut common green areas....those were the days services by government in exchange for taxes and payments....

I know, a crazy notion altogether.

its a case of

you pay us money to collect your waste...
we sell your account to a private company
they charge you to collect your waste,
we fine you if you don't use them...

seems legit :rolleyes:

+1000 it's bloody unbelievable. :mad::mad:
I tell you on a near daily basis I'm more and more despairing of this fcuking country and the utter dribbling morons who "run" it. I really am.

Sure nowhere is perfect, nor even close to same, but by god the sheer length of the list of utter blind stupidity that has been seen in this nations government, national and local over the last 20 years takes some bloody beating. It really does.

If you're doing OK here, enough to insulate yourself from the guff then my hat's off to you. It really is and long may it continue for you and yours, but be sure that they will take more and more liberties as times goes on. We're not even within sniffing distance of being out of these woods(that they're in the process of selling too).

Having lived through the 80's watching a goodly chunk of my final school year leave this nation with a lot of mixed emotions, today I'd have a very different view. If you're young enough with marketable skills internationally and this shíte buildup is beginning to get to you and you can see a time when it's just too bloody much then I'd advise you get out while you can. Build a life elsewhere. You can always come back on visits where you'll shed a nostalgic tear, but secretly thank your lucky bloody stars you left when you did. I honestly never thought I'd say this. I was one of those who stayed and tried to make a life for myself here, but after watching the implosion of gombeen headed gobshítes "in charge" of this great nation over the last decade or so, if I was 27 again...

hoodwinked

Wibbs wrote: »

I honestly never thought I'd say this. I was one of those who stayed and tried to make a life for myself here, but after watching the implosion of gombeen headed gobshítes "in charge" of this great nation over the last decade or so, if I was 27 again...

its funny you should say that at 18 if you asked me to leave ireland for two weeks i would have died of homesickness...

i never EVER thought i'd be the one saying "im counting down the weeks until myself my husband and my daughter get out of here..."

anywhere is better than here we are currently trying to find the best place for us.

this is just one in a long list of their ways of stopping people like us making something of ourselves by taking every extra cent we earn for basic services.

sometimes i wonder do they want irish people living in their own filth again?

although then they would probably guise it as an environmental tax to cover the damage to the atmosphere the stink off us is causing...

fasttalkerchat

Refuse collection was privatised. The government should have no say in it any more... unless they want to go back to lifting rubbish again... maybe?

dxhound2005

hoodwinked wrote: »

its funny you should say that at 18 if you asked me to leave ireland for two weeks i would have died of homesickness...

i never EVER thought i'd be the one saying "im counting down the weeks until myself my husband and my daughter get out of here..."

anywhere is better than here we are currently trying to find the best place for us.

this is just one in a long list of their ways of stopping people like us making something of ourselves by taking every extra cent we earn for basic services.

sometimes i wonder do they want irish people living in their own filth again?

although then they would probably guise it as an environmental tax to cover the damage to the atmosphere the stink off us is causing...

If you are going away because of taxes and charges for services this will only make sense if the "anywhere" has fewer and less expensive ones than here.

BrianD3

The draft Dublin City Council Bye Laws state:

(b)A holder shall enter into a contract with a permitted waste collector for the collection of that waste, unless otherwise agreed by the appointed person in the Council.

(c) The requirement for (b) above does not apply to waste holders that can demonstrate to the satisfaction of an authorised person that they have access to a waste collection and disposal service and provide the necessary documentary evidence of same.

If you are using black bags and bringing them to a landfill, receipts to show that you are doing this would surely satisfy conditon b) and/or c)

dxhound2005

Dwork wrote: »

Having worn out all other means of extracting cash(o.k, not all, not even many, but some) our good leaders are now introducing a new whizz that Households who do not have an agreement with a licenced waste collection service(i.e a bin company) are to be fined. €75 snots on the spot, to be precise, with failure to pay that leading to a court appearance and a potential €1700.00 fine.

So Ah, heading out at dusk to burn the papers? Scattering your weekly waste amongst the neighbours bins? Digging small holes in the local park and burying it? Them days are numbered. So, you need a compulsory T.V licence, you pay household Tax(or you will soon), you pay VAT on everything, you pay your taxes. You'll soon be paying for water. You pay for ESB, Gas, car tax, compulsory car insurance, expensive fuel for your house and vehicle. Your septic tank charges. And now you sign up to compulsory bin collection.

I for one am beginning to think I might just give Endas account number for my wages to be paid into. It would save a lot of messing. What think ye?

I think you could have got that for €5.

jimmycrackcorm

Mr. Wong wrote: »

We burn our rubbish. Enda and his like can go fuck off!

We could all burn our rubbish but you'd probably be the first to come on here complaining about the smog

hoodwinked

dxhound2005 wrote: »

If you are going away because of taxes and charges for services this will only make sense if the "anywhere" has fewer and less expensive ones than here.

thats why we are throughly researching it...honestly theses kind of charges are the end of a long tether consisting of weather,many illnesses due to the cold snaps, family issues....etc i could go on...

but these kind of local government policies just pushes us out the door...and makes me glad we won't be coming back.

dxhound2005

hoodwinked wrote: »

thats why we are throughly researching it...honestly theses kind of charges are the end of a long tether consisting of weather,many illnesses due to the cold snaps, family issues....etc i could go on...

but these kind of local government policies just pushes us out the door...and makes me glad we won't be coming back.

Also worth taking into consideration any taxpayers money your household could be getting in, not just what you have to pay out. You might not be entitled to the equivalent elsewhere.

hoodwinked

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Also worth taking into consideration any taxpayers money your household could be getting in, not just what you have to pay out. You might not be entitled to the equivalent elsewhere.

we hit every loophole when we needed help and got nothing but childrens allowance (for one)...

we are currently running off wages and paying full rent, entitled to nothing elsewhere means starting where we were here.

speaking with my aunt who lives in perth and they pay a singular council tax which pretty much covers all the services we pay a fortune for here... including refuse

don't worry i know starting from scratch won't be easy or cheap at first but with two good careers and qualifications behind us we should be just fine.

Mr. Wong

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

We could all burn our rubbish but you'd probably be the first to come on here complaining about the smog

Yeah, the ould smog is a divil.

The Th!ng

Bring your waste to a landfill or other licensed facility, keep your receipts as proof of proper disposal, by doing so you will avoid the waste company's annual charge and their per-lift costs as well.

Dwork

The Th!ng wrote: »

Bring your waste to a landfill or other licensed facility, keep your receipts as proof of proper disposal, by doing so you will avoid the waste company's annual charge and their per-lift costs as well.

And on the upside, your car will bang like the inside of a wheelie-bin. Which will cut down the amount of time you want to spend in it. Environmental win-win.

The Th!ng

Dwork wrote: »

And on the upside, your car will bang like the inside of a wheelie-bin. Which will cut down the amount of time you want to spend in it. Environmental win-win.

That depends on how the waste is managed by the householder, instead of throwing waste directly into the bin, bag it and then into the bin.