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BF4 ideas?

mozattack

Not going to make this an easy and mention how much assault needs to be changed but what about 6 classes once again, as follows:-

- assault

same guns, no reviving and instread the medi pack is a lockin with the other slot being saved for M320/Buck M26 etc

- support

same guns, retain supply abilities with other slot being mortars (like BC2) or ability to call in artillery strikes and claymores (on a minor scale)

- engineer

no change

- sniper* (new)

same as recon but no semi-auto rifles, retain spawn beacon and have a trip wire as defence or MAV (no TUGS)

- recon

no blot actions, retain spawn beacon and TUGS plus C4

- medic* (new)

new guns, carbine level with revive ability and repair torch to repair vehicles

I know there could be issues above but it is a start..

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Glico Man

mozattack wrote: »

Back to ideas:

- back to assault class, what about keeping it the same but giving the OP weapons to another new class and maybe restricting assault to PDWs or something?

- rush... what about 3 mcomms instead of two if game size is more than 24? Would that work>

- what about a new class, maybe enhanced engineer type who can build artillery where you can deploy them on the map subject to maybe it taking 5 minutes or something... I dunno

So you want to take assault rifles away from the assault class?

mozattack

aaronh007 wrote: »

So you want to take assault rifles away from the assault class?

Could just rename assault class as medic and restict medic to PDWs and healing.

Assault could have the noob guns and some other specialistions, other than healing

MajesticDonkey

Sorry to say this but this type of player is EXACTLY who I want removed from BF4... the M16/AEK noob who cant use any other weapon.

You're really starting to look childish now. My top weapon on Battelog is the M249. Second is the P90. I have more kills with C4 than I do with the M16 and AEK combined.

mozattack wrote: »

Could just rename assault class as medic and restict medic to PDWs and healing.

Assault could have the noob guns and some other specialistions, other than healing

Look it, in my opinion the game (in regards to weapons/loadouts) is perfect the way it is, and if BF4 was similar I couldn't care less. You will always have people that give out no matter what's changed, and you can't keep everyone happy, but giving out about the weapon someone uses is simply childish.

Glico Man

mozattack wrote: »

Could just rename assault class as medic and restict medic to PDWs and healing.

Assault could have the noob guns and some other specialistions, other than healing

Please stop calling them "noob" guns, it's doing nothing for your argument. They are legitimate weapons and are not 'broken' like the MASS or the Spas (slug rounds) were.

iColdFusion

BF4 couldn't compete with MW4 if it went back to WW2.
The amount of shiney guns, attachments and equipment in Black ops 2 is ridiculous so I think BF4 will have to do a similar slight jump into the future to retain the current weapons while adding xray rail guns and hover tanks

Royal Irish

-Get rid of the small linear CoD like maps like Metro, Grand Bazaar, etc.

-(a)Reintroduce a team commander
(b)A tuteriol that must be completed before a player can act as a commander

-Comma rose

-More classes including a recon sniper and long range sniper as in, a recon sniper has the weaker smaller sniper rifles and is more geared towards spotting with tugs/mav/soflam, and a long range sniper with the likes of the M98B which fires a .338 Lapua which should be a one hit kill, and the 50cal seen in BC2. Also a spotting scope that doesn't give off glare.

-A new unlocking system were there is only 4 classes available at first, but when you unlock everything in one class, the next level is unlocked. Example would be you start off recon sniper, and when you have that one leveled up, you unlock the long range sniper.

-Make the Attack helicopter the flying fortress they should be ie gunner has counter measures like ecm, flares.

-Better sound

-The ability to region lock your rented server to just Ireland and UK players to keep out undesirables (the French).

-A 5 second time period of invincibility when you spawn in your deployment to stop vehicle team killing.

They are just the tip of the iceberg

Spear

Royal Irish wrote: »

-The ability to region lock your rented server to just Ireland and UK players to keep out undesirables (the French).

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Any more of that crap and you get a break from here.

Royal Irish

Spear wrote: »

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Any more of that crap and you get a break from here.

Its hardly racist or any of those mentioned in the terms of use. Its more xenophobic but only because of their great connections versus my poor rural Ireland connection. I should have mentioned that in the post.

ahnowbrowncow

mozattack wrote: »

"Well I went and checked your stats seeing as you have been insulting other players' intelligence just because they don't play how you want them to play.

12.5% accuracy after nearly 600 hours played, maybe you should copy the players you are moaning about and stick to one gun so you can learn to aim properly."

Should be entitled to a response to this though?

WHO CARES ABOUT ACCURACY?

Do bullets cost money?

Last time I checked, they didn't, not in this game.

Also thought using a LMG and suppressing was the point, not sniping with a LMG, for example.

Also, whats wrong with going nuts and shooting everything?

<< Saddo >>

Nothing, which is exactly my point, wtf is wrong with people using one class or one gun then? Who fucking cares. Quit whinging.

For bf4 I hope it doesn't take 3 months to fix some game ruining glitches.

mozattack

Really hope recon is seperated from sniping... I snipe maybe 5% of the time (when bored) but I actually have more time on recon than any other class (mainly cos of the need to have a spawn beacon when playing with thick randoms).

Look at my profile = wookie

Reality = attack recon.

danniemcq

would attack recon be better suited to "spec ops" and change recon to "sniper team"

or take a page from Generation Kill (if you don't know it get it!) and call attack recon something like 1st recon? Although that would only really work for US troops but you could get the Russian/Chinese/whoever equivilant for that army too

BlitzKrieg

I must admit this talk of adding classes to the game annoys me mostly on the level that I see the suggestions as extra abilities to classes that already exist and no suggestion that actually justifies a new class. Every suggestion pretty much takes a class we have now and cuts it in half rather then switching up the current classes or creating new roles.

And personally I like that the battlefield series has shifted more to having one class that can be played in a variety of ways rather then having lots of different classes for lots of small roles.

I think the talk of having two sniper classes/recon classes is more of a sign that the recon needs to get a bit more variety to its support powers then an actual justification for two smaller classes.

maybe the spotting scope from bad company 2 should make a return as support power, which can be upgraded to squad spotting scope.

also the tracer dart could make a return for those wanting to play attack recon so they can still help against armour even though they'd be in the thick of it with the other grunts.

I'm also against the commander making a return in pub conquest/rush games. It was far too much expectation on teamwork/politeness for the internet, considering I spent my most recent game being called a *N*gger Jew* everytime I killed the same player, I rather not take orders from the same sort. But I'm not against it returning in a new game mode akin to squad rush or squad dm where the expectation in those modes has always been that everyone is a teamplayer. If commander was to return it would be in its own mode with a new sort of objective (maybe a return to the titan/bf2 base like modes with objectives tied to commander powers)( and the expectation that you are part of a team and cant go off and do your own thing focusing on your k/d. You cant make such expectations for the whole game and thats why it should be kept away from public conquest/rush.

I'd also like to see possible hardcore mode only support powers perhaps?

battlefield's greatest strength is also its biggest problem at times, it's incredibly varied in what it offers, so its very hard to balance what it offers to please the majority.

Junco Partner

when revived. you should be unkillable until you actually accept the revive. being revved in the middle of a firefight by a medic points spammer and dying before being able to refuse the rev. and having to go through four or five times in a row is infuriating.

BlitzKrieg

Junco Partner wrote: »

when revived. you should be unkillable until you actually accept the revive. being revved in the middle of a firefight by a medic points spammer and dying before being able to refuse the rev. and having to go through four or five times in a row is infuriating.

actually you are protected when you are initially revived/or spawn for a few seconds, but when you move it is negated. A fact I keep forgetting because my natural response whenever I am revived is to sprint for cover.

Yousef

CVG are reporting that BF4 was nowhere to be found at the Sony press conference last week because EA have entered a deal with Microsoft to deliver DLC etc before any other platform (much like the current COD set-up). This means Xbox720 owners will be getting all things Battlefield a month or so before PS4 and PC. In recent years it was XB/PC owners that had to wait as Sony had the BF deal.

This hints that we'll see Battlefield 4 in action along with the new Call of Duty in April at Microsofts unveiling of the new Xbox. This makes sense as to why DICE were not at the announcement of the PS4 last week. Does this give the new XB a huge advantage over Sonys machine going forward? We can also expect to see EA's other game, the COD killer from Respawn Entertainment at Microsofts event.

MajesticDonkey

What a bunch of tossers. Release it at the same time for every platform FFS.

ktulu123

no no no release it for PC ONLY!!!

Spear

Seriously, is there anyone on the planet that falls for that platform exclusive period crap? Who drops a half grand on a new console just for the sake of playing the same game 4 weeks earlier? And why are they applying it to PCs too?

danniemcq

Yousef wrote: »

CVG are reporting that BF4 was nowhere to be found at the Sony press conference last week because EA have entered a deal with Microsoft to deliver DLC etc before any other platform (much like the current COD set-up). This means Xbox720 owners will be getting all things Battlefield a month or so before PS4 and PC. In recent years it was XB/PC owners that had to wait as Sony had the BF deal.

This hints that we'll see Battlefield 4 in action along with the new Call of Duty in April at Microsofts unveiling of the new Xbox. This makes sense as to why DICE were not at the announcement of the PS4 last week. Does this give the new XB a huge advantage over Sonys machine going forward? We can also expect to see EA's other game, the COD killer from Respawn Entertainment at Microsofts event.

This makes 0 sense to me, why release it for a MICROSOFT xbox and not a MICROSOFT windows powered machine.

Well ok it does kinda make sense that they see the console as the future and the more that play it the better for them and it being its own seperate entity etc but jeez guys really?

mozattack

It would bother me if the 720 had BF4 a few weeks before the PS4 but i wont buy a 720 anyway, so....

BACK TO IDEAS:

1. I'd like it if the game kept your score against an enemy for ever and not just one round. Would be interesting when playing v mates or maybe a random who you meet again in a game a few months later, for example.

2. Tea-bagging enhancement. I t-bag a lot, probably the most anyone does cos I do it for any kind of kill so the pee the guy off and build up some rivalery. I'd love if you could go a step further and maybe press a combination of buttons to do various take the piss moves once they are dead

iColdFusion

danniemcq wrote: »

This makes 0 sense to me, why release it for a MICROSOFT xbox and not a MICROSOFT windows powered machine.

Well ok it does kinda make sense that they see the console as the future and the more that play it the better for them and it being its own seperate entity etc but jeez guys really?

I don't think MS make much if any money selling 360's, the profits are from the games & marketplace so getting first dibs will shove more cash from people with both consoles and a PC their way.

mozattack wrote: »

2. Tea-bagging enhancement. I t-bag a lot, probably the most anyone does cos I do it for any kind of kill so the pee the guy off and build up some rivalery. I'd love if you could go a step further and maybe press a combination of buttons to do various take the piss moves once they are dead

Oh, your one of them.

BlitzKrieg

2. Tea-bagging enhancement. I t-bag a lot, probably the most anyone does cos I do it for any kind of kill so the pee the guy off and build up some rivalery. I'd love if you could go a step further and maybe press a combination of buttons to do various take the piss moves once they are dead

It's amazing how you can make me dislike a little bit more with each post you make on this thread.

Oh!!! You're the noob from battlefield friends!!!

Royal Irish

mozattack wrote: »

2. Tea-bagging enhancement. I t-bag a lot, probably the most anyone does cos I do it for any kind of kill so the pee the guy off and build up some rivalery. I'd love if you could go a step further and maybe press a combination of buttons to do various take the piss moves once they are dead

I got tea bagged last night, on my own server. He wasn't laughing when I got his tags minutes later.

danniemcq

iColdFusion wrote: »

I don't think MS make much if any money selling 360's, the profits are from the games & marketplace so getting first dibs will shove more cash from people with both consoles and a PC their way.

yeah as i was typing it it kinda started making more and more sense.

Push the Xbox games get one over on Sony, become the leader as i know (while probably a small number relatively speaking) people have both xbox and ps3 in their house so if they can get people to buy it on their system thats X amount for you and an X amount loss for sony.

PC gamers aren't gonna switch as we all know they are far and away superior anyway so why take a step back.....

:pac:

Ciano35

danniemcq wrote: »

PC gamers aren't gonna switch as we all know they are far and away superior anyway so why take a step back.....

:pac:

Ooh controversial :pac:

sink

Just as EA claims, I really want the game to include micro-transactions for quick leveling and exclusive weapon unlocks.

\sarcasm

danniemcq

Ciano35 wrote: »

Ooh controversial :pac:

i couldn't resist i felt this thread needed some pointless name calling and one upmanship. the whole gun v guns thing was to timid

danniemcq

sink wrote: »

Just as EA claims, I really want the game to include micro-transactions for quick leveling and exclusive weapon unlocks.

\sarcasm

2c for each mag you use

Glico Man

danniemcq wrote: »

2c for each mag you use

LMGs 4 lyfe

karma_

All I want from DICE is for them to return to the WW2 period and a remake of '42. Those were the halcyon days of battlefield.