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The Pope resigns because of the gays

kunst nugget

It would seem that while the pope has a live and let live attitude to the clergy having sex with children the thought of a couple of gays in the Vatican seems to have been too much to bear and was one of the reasons he quit. Can a pope not talk to God in peace without those sneaky homosexuals hanging around?

Italian daily La Repubblica this morning sensationally claims that Pope Benedict's resignation was at least partly prompted by an internal report prepared by three senior cardinals, alleging that various lobbies, including a gay lobby, exercise an "inappropriate influence" in internal Holy See affairs.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2013/0221/breaking21.html

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johnwest288

When did the pope resign? Jesus I read the daily mail every day ! First I heard about this :eek::eek:

Celly Smunt

Must've been a pain in the arse alright.

davet82

So the pope was gay, who would have thought it...

(only read the thread title because i couldn't give a shíte)

Miguel_Sanchez

Gay Lobby? What's that, a particularly flamboyant foyer or something?

Death and Taxes

Who is this Pope guy, the only Pope I know is that kiwi rugby commenator on RTE and I didn't know he was gay!:eek:

Boombastic

We'll he's a cross dresser himself, not sure what his problem is with the gays?

syklops

johnwest288 wrote: »

When did the pope resign? Jesus I read the daily mail every day ! First I heard about this :eek::eek:

You don't read it very carefully.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-2278594/Popes-resignation-prompts--questions--travelling-Rome.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

squod

kunst nugget wrote: »

The Pope resigns because of the gays
It would seem that while the pope has a live and let live attitude to the clergy having sex with children the thought of a couple of gays in the Vatican seems to have been too much to bear and was one of the reasons he quit. Can a pope not talk to God in peace without those sneaky homosexuals hanging around?

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Italian daily La Repubblica this morning sensationally claims that Pope Benedict's resignation was at least partly prompted by an internal report prepared by three senior cardinals, alleging that various lobbies, including a gay lobby, exercise an "inappropriate influence" in internal Holy See affairs.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...reaking21.html

Read as; Pope sick of gays in the church raping young boys.

What's your point OP?

Furious_George

It reads like the plot of a Dan Brown novel. I think the church are so used to secrets and lies that they see conspiracies everywhere.

Although "the gays" may be having an improper influence on the wardrobe choices.

kunst nugget

squod wrote: »

Read as; Pope sick of gays in the church raping young boys.

What's your point OP?

Wow, it takes some skill to read it like that. David Quinn would be proud.

I just thought it quite odd, if what is being reported is true, that the sinister panda would have no problem presiding over a church tainted by numerous child sexual abuse cases but the notion of a gay lobby in the vatican is enough to make him quit. Does nobody else find it a bit queer?

squod

kunst nugget wrote: »

Wow, it takes some skill to read it like that. David Quinn would be proud.

Then read it again.

Gender and career, blackmail the Vatican
behind the resignation of Benedict XVI
Struggles for power and money in a secret report with the results of an investigation on Vatileaks delivered by three cardinals to the Pope hypothesized a gay lobby. The document will pass into the hands of the new pope, should be enough "strong, young and holy"
to Conchita De Gregorio

I read it after
Benedict XVI (loop)
TOPICSresignation-Pope "In these 50 years we have learned and experienced that original sin exists, always results in personal sins which may become structures of sin. We have seen that in the field of the Lord there is always the weeds. Whether the network of Peter are the bad fish. "

the weeds. The bad fish. "Structures of sin." It's Thursday, October 11, Santa Maria Bleak. This is the day the Church commemorates Pope John XXIII, fifty years from the beginning of the Council. Benedict XVI to the balcony and the boys gathered in the square of Catholic says: "Fifty years ago I was like you in this square, with eyes turned upward to watch and listen to the words full of poetry and We goodness of the Pope, then, happy. Filled with enthusiasm, we were sure that was to come a new springtime of the Church. " Short break. We were happy in the past. "Today, the joy is more sober, humble. In fifty years we have learned that human frailty is also present in the Church." What's the weeds, there are the bad fish. Nobody knew at that October afternoon. The boys in the square cheered and cried the memory of Pope John. Nobody knew that two days before Benedict XVI again met Cardinal Julian Herranz, 83 years old, Spanish Opus Dei for him to preside over the commission of inquiry on what the newspapers call Vatileaks. The crow, the leak, the cards stolen from the apartment of the Pope Ratzinger Herranz updated regularly. Each week, in private conversation, from April to December. The Pope noted with growing concern the developments of the investigation: dozens and dozens of interviews with bishops, cardinals and lay people. In Italy and abroad. Dozens and dozens of reports reread and signed by the interviewees. The same questions for everyone at first, then interviews free. Cross-checks. Checks. A framework from which was emerging a network of lobby that the three cardinals divided by origin a religious congregation, for geographical origin. The Salesians, Jesuits. The Ligurians, Lombards. Finally, that day in October, the transition to the thorniest. A network cross united sexual orientation. For the first time the word homosexuality has been given, read aloud from a written text, in the apartment of Ratzinger. For the first time it is scanned, although in Latin, the word blackmail "influentiam" His Holiness. Impropriam influentiam. Dec. 17, 2012, San Lazzaro. The three cardinals deliver into the hands of the Pope the result of their work. There are two volumes of nearly 300 pages. Two folders hard bound in red without the header. Under "pontifical secret", are kept in the safe in the Ratzinger. The only knows, besides Him, who wrote them. Contain an exact map of the tares and bad fish. The "divisions in the ecclesial body that disfigure the face of the Church," the Pope says nearly two months after the Homily Ash. It's that day with those cards on the table, which Benedict XVl makes the decision so long meditated. It is in that week he meets his biographer, Peter Seewald, and a few hours after receiving the three cardinal says, "I am old, just what I did." Almost the same words, in that interview later published in Focus, who said in February the consistory for the martyrs of Otranto, "" worsening NA. "" We are an old Pope, "had already opened his arms many times in the past months, in confidential talks. So the week before Christmas, the Pope makes his decision. With these words, says Cardinal Salvatore De Giorgi, another of the three inquisitors who prepare the "relationem" present at the time of renunciation: "He made a gesture of strength, not weakness. He did it for the good of the Church. He gave a strong message to everyone in the exercise of authority or power are considered irreplaceable. The Church is made up of men. The Pope has seen the problems and confronted them with unprecedented initiative so as forward-looking. "He took upon himself the cross, in fact. I do not fell the contrary. Who are" those who consider themselves irreplaceable? ". echo the words of the Angelus last Sunday's necessary "to expose the temptations of power who exploit God for their own interests." the "relationem" is now there. Benedict XVI will deliver it into the hands of the next Pope, who will be strong enough, and young, and "holy" - hoped - to address the immense work that lies ahead. has drawn, in these pages, a geography of "improper influence" that a man very close to the person who has written it this way: "All revolves around the non-observance of the sixth and seventh commandment. "Thou shalt not commit adultery. Thou shalt not steal. Credibility of the Church be shattered by the evidence that its own members violate the original wording. these two points, in particular. Let the sixth commandment, impure acts. The report is explicit. few prelates suffer "outside influence" - we would say blackmail - lay to which they are related by "worldly nature." It's almost the same words he had used Monsignor Attilio Nicora, then at the top of the IOR, in the letter stolen from the secret chambers at the beginning of 2012: the letter was later published full of names omitted to cover. many of those names and those circumstances resurface in the Report. remote from events, such as Bishop Tommaso Stenico suspended after an interview aired on The 7 in which he told of sexual encounters took place in the Vatican. resurfaces the story of the singers that liked to surround the Gentleman of His Holiness Angelo Balducci, the acts of a judicial inquiry. Places meetings. A villa outside Rome. A sauna Quarto Miglio. A beauty salon in the center.'s rooms in the Vatican itself. A university residence Trasone being leased to a private entity and claimed back from the Secretary of State Bertone, residence usually used as an address in Rome by an archbishop Verona. Mention is made of the center "Priscilla", which even from press cuttings appears to be due to Marco Simeon, the young San Remo today at the top of Rai and already mentioned by Archbishop Viganò as the author of anonymous notes against him. Circumstances denied by the protagonists in the newspapers, but deepened and taken from the report in great detail. The three cardinals continued to work beyond 17 December last year. They came up with the latest events concerning the IOR - here you go to the seventh commandment - listening to the men of whom he confides Tarcisio Bertone from his right arm, the powerful Monsignor Ettore Balestrero, Genoese, born in 1966. I arrived until the appointment of young René Bruelhart the direction of FIA, the authority Financial Institute. third of the cardinal investigators, Josef Tomko, is the oldest and therefore the most influential of the triad. Ratzinger recalled him to 88 years in service. Slovak, had been with Woijtyla head of counterintelligence Vatican. had followed person of the thorny issue of including economic contributions to the cause of Polish as a delegate to the relations with Eastern Europe. Following Monsignor Luigi Poggi, who died in 2010, is the last guardian of what today is called the Entity, the "Sodalitium pianum "of ancient memory, the intelligence service of the Vatican formally dismantled by Benedict XV, in the name of Ratzinger's predecessor. Given the symbols and gestures, to St. Peter, count much more than the words who is very familiar with the liturgies Vatican points out that. Nell ' last day of his pontificate, Benedict XVI will receive the drafters of the three cardinals relationem in a private audience. Soon after, alongside Tomko, see the bishops and the faithful Slovaks in Santa Maria Maggiore. His last public hearing. February 27, the San Procopio Decapolita, confessor. then the conclave. (1-continued)

Rabidlamb

I've never seen such a pile of words that I had less desire to read

krudler

"In these 50 years we have learned and experienced that original sin exists, always results in personal sins which may become structures of sin. We have seen that in the field of the Lord there is always the weeds. Whether the network of Peter are the bad fish. "

What bollocks, there's no such thing as original sin.

seamus

Awesome. So he steps down because he's annoyed about external forces influencing his government, but clearly he had no qualms about trying to influence foreign governments.

Pope in hypocrite shocker.

topper75

davet82 wrote: »

So the pope was gay, who would have thought it...

(only read the thread title because i couldn't give a shíte)

The Pope is a queen?

The shower up the road won't know who to f**k.

shootermacg

Hate to say it, but if there were no gays in the church, then there would be no young boys being raped, nothing against gays but the pedos are gay.

Gulliver

Look at all the geoncides, wars, tortures and destruction religion has been responsible for over the years.

The Pope is damn right to take a stance on this. It was all the fault of "the gays".:rolleyes:

Hobbes

He isn't resigning because of that. There was documents leaked a while back in Italy that showed a lot of corruption going on in the Vatican, and that the Pope while trying to clean it up basically got ignored and his actions were overridden.

For example he wanted the same anti-corruption laws for accounting to be applied to the Vatican. The guy he wanted in charge instead got sent to the US.

Outing someone as Gay was tiny in comparison to the stuff that went on.

The whole thing reads like a Dan Brown novel.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20130221/eu-vatican-the-bureaucracy/?utm_hp_ref=homepage&ir=homepage

Nodin

shootermacg wrote: »

Hate to say it, but if there were no gays in the church, then there would be no young boys being raped, nothing against gays but the pedos are gay.

Right...pedos are not gay, pedos are pedos. Unless every straight man is the same as a pedo that molests little girls?

humanji

A newspaper made a claim and didn't back it up. That's all there is here.

dr.bollocko

squod wrote: »

Read as; Pope sick of gays in the church raping young boys.

What's your point OP?

shootermacg wrote: »

Hate to say it, but if there were no gays in the church, then there would be no young boys being raped, nothing against gays but the pedos are gay.

Banned btw.